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Cloud & correction of the KJV

Discussion in '2005 Archive' started by Logos1560, Mar 20, 2005.

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  1. Logos1560

    Logos1560 Well-Known Member
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    David Cloud has written several books in defense of the KJV-only view.

    One of his books is entitled THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD. On the back cover of this book,
    the following are two statements about it:

    "Find out the meaning of difficult verses."

    "Contains no criticism or correction of the English Authorized Version."

    Concerning Genesis 26:34, Genesis 28:9, and Genesis 36:2, 3, Cloud discusses the wives of Esau and the different names in Gen. 36:2-3. He commented: "The solution to this problem lies in the frequent use of different names for the same person in biblical times."

    Then David Cloud favorably quoted a long paragraph written by A. McCaig.

    In this long paragraph, Cloud quoted A. McCaig
    as writing: "Then Beeri may be taken as another name for Anah, and, as has been suggested, it may have been given him because of the incident recorded in the twenty-fourth verse, of his finding the 'hot springs' in the wilderness"
    (THINGS HARD TO BE UNDERSTOOD, p. 30).


    Notice: "hot springs" at Gen. 36:24 instead
    of "mules" as in the KJV.
     
    #1 Logos1560, Mar 20, 2005
  2. Spoudazo

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    Whoops! [​IMG] Maybe he is a "closet NASB-er" :D j/k
    ESV Deuteronomy 4:49 together with all the Arabah on the east side of the Jordan as far as the Sea of the Arabah, under the slopes of Pisgah.

    KJV Deuteronomy 4:49 And all the plain on this side Jordan eastward, even unto the sea of the plain, under the springs of Pisgah.

    NAU Deuteronomy 4:49 with all the Arabah across the Jordan to the east, even as far as the sea of the Arabah, at the foot of the slopes of Pisgah.

    NIV Deuteronomy 4:49 and included all the Arabah east of the Jordan, as far as the Sea of the Arabah, below the slopes of Pisgah.

    NKJ Deuteronomy 4:49 and all the plain on the east side of the Jordan as far as the Sea of the Arabah, below the slopes of Pisgah.
     
    #2 Spoudazo, Mar 20, 2005
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    "Contains no criticism or correction of the English Authorized Version."

    Heh. Kind of a fundamentalist Imprimatur.
     
    #3 Ransom, Mar 20, 2005
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    Cloud "quoted" a writer, while he himself did not criticize or question the AV (whichever revision he claims as perfect).

    And anyone who reads his stuff is already in trouble without that . . .
     
    #4 Dr. Bob, Mar 21, 2005
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    About the ONLY things Cloud was almost 100% right about, was his criticism of Riplinger. She was about 60% right in her rebuttal, "O Madman".
     
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    In his review of James White's book, David Cloud
    condemned White for using Gail Riplinger's book
    as an example of a book defending the KJV-only view. Cloud claimed that White should have used
    men like D. A. Waite (EXAMINING "THE KING JAMES ONLY CONTROVERSY," p. 18). Cloud commended "the scholarly credentials and diligent study of men" like D. A. Waite (p. 20). He claimed that Waite's "book DEFENDING THE KING JAMES BIBLE is a classic that is widely used among KJV lovers" (p. 13).

    While David Cloud has pointed out problems with Riplinger's claims, D. A. Waite for the most part seems to defend Riplinger. Referring to Gail Riplinger, Waite wrote: "If she has made an error of fact or quotation, she is willing to admit it and correct it" (FOES OF THE KJB REFUTED, p. 55). Agreeing with Riplinger, Waite wrote: "I believe that they [all other English translations] are New Age Bibles" (CENTRAL SEMINARY REFUTED, p. 18).
     
    #6 Logos1560, Mar 22, 2005
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