Clown Communion, Okay or Not?

Leviticus 19:30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Dressing up like clowns, blowing bubbles in communion is not reverence.

It is sad that a people that claim to be of Christ would think it is ok to disrespect such an holy place as the sanctuary.

 

well I guess we will respectfully agree to disagree. I am at a completely different place ecclesiologically than you. Thank you for your reply.

 

What is the purpose of church? Is it Worship? or evangelism? or instruction? Does it have to have only one purpose?

Did everyone come to Jesus for the same reasons and with the same motivation? Of course not. Some came to learn from a man they took to be a great teacher. Some came to be healed. Some came to be fed. Some came to see the miracles they had heard about.

When people come to Christ, either on their own or brought by others, even when they come for the wrong reasons. God can still work a miracle.

Can they come to be entertained and still be touched by God? Can they come seeking an handout or a free meal and be touched by God?

I can't imagine participating in a Clown Communion. It does sound irreverent. But neither will I condemn something someone else is doing in the name of the Lord.

 

Sounds to me like you have an unhealthy reverence for sticks and stones. The holy place is not the sanctuary.

 

Again you are questioning poster's salvation that disagree with you....

Stop it.

BTW... I agree with you on this one... clowns are overboard.

I have heard of mimes doing it in a very reverent way.
I have also heard that mimes date back to the early church, and that the symbols that they paint on their faces stands for different things within Christianity... But I have never been interested enough to verify this.

One incident I heard about, used a loaf of french bread, nailed it to a cross, then poured grape juice over it.. then took it off the cross and passed out pieces of it to the congregation.
I don't even think I could go along with this... but that IMO.

 

I have to disagree. The sabbath and the sanctuary of Leviticus 19 are gone away. The tabernacle is gone, the temple is gone, and I went to church on Sunday this week.

There is nothing holy about the sancutary where we gather for worship. The temple of God is now within the bodies of those who believe in him. We have a holy God and when we gather together anyplace it becomes a holy place due to the presence of God. But the sanctuary of our church is just a pile of brick and wood and there will come a day when it no longer stands.

 

tim,

Stop with the false accusations. I did not question anyone's salvation.

 

I failt to see anything relating to the OP that communion by clowns is happening in "holy places" (i.e. sanctuary)

Do you keep the sabbaths, SFIC? Since your wife didn't answer...please supply Scripture where communion is to ONLY happen in these so-called "holy places" I call a church building.

 

Since Jesus is the Sabbath, and Jesus is with me, ... I do keep the Sabath.

 

"It is sad that a people that claim to be of Christ would think it is ok to disrespect such an holy place as the sanctuary."

 

So Leviticus was written AFTER Christ's birth

 

You just said in one of your posts..

I bolded the part you could have left out.. but no.. you just questioned everyone's salvation that disagreed with you...

Why couldn't you have said, "it is sad that Christians would think...."

But no, you added "Claim to be" to cast doubt on people's salvation...

BTW, have you answered the question in the other thread about what a bible should look like?... we are still waiting on the page numbers...

 

As to the OP, I cannot vote because there may be a circumstance that doesn't warrant either a yes or no answer. There needs to be a "depends" option.

 

Obviously you have no clue about the JOY of the LORD. My JOY comes from the LORD. I love church...and I can't stand to see people sitting in church with no JOY of the LORD. (Nehemiah 8:10)

I don't go to church to be entertained. God's house is NOT a circus, neither it is a place of entertainment. If you want to be entertained, you need to go to a circus, not church.

What is your definition of fun?

Some Bible truths about worship:

Worship is to bow down, to honor; to exalt, pay homage, to reverence:
(Genesis 24:52; Exodus 4:31; 12:27; 24:1; 33:10; 34:8; Matthew 2:11)

Only the Lord God of the Bible is to be worshipped: (Exodus 20:1-6; 34:14; 2 Kings 17:36; Matthew 4:10; Acts 10:25-26).

Not even the angels are to be worshipped: (Revelation 22:8-9).

Jesus Christ is to be worshipped: (Matthew 2:11; 8:2; 9:18; 14:33; 15:25; 18:26; 20:20; 28:9,17; Philippians 2:9-11; Hebrews 1:6).

Worship must be in Spirit and in truth (John 4:24; Philippians 3:3).

The fourth chapter of Paul's epistle to the Ephesians defines the purpose of the church. Read it and study it.

BTW, I can't stand lemons!

 

Show me from Scripture where a church service is a "worship service". Also still waiting where communion is only for this worship service, too.

 

First, you show me from Scripture where ANYTHING in that video is biblical. Then tell me what you believe is the purpose of a church service, if not for worship. Do you believe we are to be entertained during Sunday morning worship?

I never said that communion is supposed to be only for a certain service---all I was trying to say (and it was rejected) is that communion is to be taken and administered reverently:

1 Corinthians 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

1 Corinthians 11:24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.

1 Corinthians 11:25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

1 Corinthians 11:26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come.

1 Corinthians 11:27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.

1 Corinthians 11:28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.

1 Corinthians 11:29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

Is this to be done by clowns in a circus-like atmosphere in church? Is that what Jesus did with His disciples? I don't believe so.

 

Communion is biblical...isn't it?

Don't re-direct the question back to me, I asked you.

 

That, sir, was NOT communion---that was a MOCKERY of communion. Actually, what I saw on that video was very nauseating and heretical.

I gave Scripture---the entire fourth chapter of Ephesians--but it was rejected. Now, I'm asking you---what is the purpose of a church service? Ephesians 4 pretty much lays it out. Also the pastoral esptiles (1 & 2 Timothy & Titus). God has standards for pastors and deacons...these don't include "how to entertain" the flock. Pastors are to "feed the flock of God" (1 Peter 5)...is entertainment feeding the flock or feeding the flesh?

How can anyone who names the Holy Name of Jesus Christ say that what that video displayed was something pleasing to the Lord?

 

First, I read on here recently about a church holding services in the nude, now I see a church holding "communion" with clown costumes and choir members wearing viking helmets and people blowing bubbles.

What is the supposed purpose of this?

I am disgusted. Is this how people show their respect for the sacrifice of our Lord and Savior????

Those who answered yes, it's ok, I would like to ask you if you were on trial for a crime (let's assume you're innocent) and when you walked into the courtroom, your attorney was dressed like a clown and so was the judge and court officers. And the jury was wearing viking helmets and there was a person running around blowing bubbles. What would you think of that?

Now I know what apostasy looks like.

 

I usually do not agree with Linda and SFIC on obeying rules in the Bible because of the issue of obeying on your own power vs guidance of the Holy Spirit.

However, in this case, I have to take their side. Common sense goes a long way. It takes no in depth Scripture to see this is wrong. This is the body and blood of our Lord. It is one of the most reverent ways we worship. Proverbs makes reference to a fool over and over, and what consequences of living like a fool. Since a clown is nothing but a fool, can anyone see anything wrong with a clown serving the Lord's Supper? A clown administering the body and blood of our Lord? It is next to blasphemy.

Instead of a clown, why not train a chimp to go down the aisles and throw the bread? How about letting a meth dealer pass out the grape juice as he offers his pills to the bretheran? Maybe we can have a stripper on the alter to get everyone excited before the elements are administered.

This thread needs to be closed.