Coming Vaccinations.

Someone needs to readjust the tin foil. It's getting odder by the post.

 

If you believe the shot is bad, don't get it. But do not complain or blame the government if you come down with the flu.

 

There are aluminum and mercury in flu shots...I would avoid any of them.

 

I don't suppose you read up that vitamin C doesn't prevent the flu...

Oh well. maybe you're getting a "placebo effect."

BTW...the insults towards CTB are out of line. But you probably know that already.


Feel free to keep ignoring Scripture as to our role with the government.

 

And that is your right to do so. And I have no problem with publicizing the things we should look out for.

But for Pilgrim to insinuate that the government is using flu shots to deliberately kill the population is a profoundly stupid statement.

 

Are you buying the new "eco-friendly" light bulbs? They contain mercury, and, according to reports, will become mandatory.

Back to the OP. It seems to me that certain vaccinations (small pox, typhoid, TB tests etc.) are required by law for one to attend school. I can remember lining up with my classmates to receive typhoid shots. No one asked permission before administering the shots. (As an aside, they were very painful, the needles were used over and over (after sterilization of course:thumbs, and eventually became dull.:tear So, why the fear of a shot being required by law. I don't know what chemicals are in any of the vaccinations I have had. I received them, and would do so again if needed.

Many vaccines are made from dead or weakened bacteria and viruses they are intended to protect us against. How do we know if the maker of the vaccine properly processed the base material? If one has an allergy to an ingredient, then by all means refuse to take it.

 

Very true. I myself have CFL's in my house, so I must be part of the conspiracy. At least I lowered my electric bill by half.

Seriously, though, claims of mercury/aluminum in vaccines is based on rumor and lack of research. Aluminum is the third most common element on earth, and is found everywhere: the air, water, soil, plants, etc. Everyone begins accumulatinc aluminum from the day they are concieved. The average adult ingests 5mg of aluminum daily through natural processes (most of it eventually exits the body via urine and fecal matter). The amount of aluminum in a vaccine is a small percentage of a person's normal daily intake. You actually ingest more amuminum by handling a sheet of foil than you do in a vaccine. The mercury content is similar, as noted in a prior post in this thread. The ingested mercury is flushed by the body in a matter of days.

If people are concerned about mercury and aluminum toxicity, they shoudl first have any dental work removed, and then remove any aliminum windows from their homes. That will reduce their intake of aluminum and mercury hundreds of times more than avoiding a vaccine.

One additional note. Our resident conspiracy theorist disputes the fact (and it is a 100% fact) that there are no verifiable cases of autism or similar illnesses resulting from vaccinations. Absolutely none. Claims of such are an oft-repeated urban legend, with no basis in objectivity or fact.

 

I think the benefit of the flu shot far outweighs any potential risk. As long as one is not allergic to eggs or already sick there is very little danger from the vaccine. I have taken the vaccine for years and had no problems at all (other than my arm being sore). Only one person I know of allegedly had a severe reaction to the flu shot. His near death experience was certainly a shock, but only in the sense that it happened after he took the flu shot. You see he is a known drug user who has been in and out of prison. The only reason he does not stay in prison is his family connections. I would certainly not stop taking the flu shot because of his bad experience. Most people think there was a bit more to the story.

As for the H1N1 vaccine, I plan to take it if it is offered. I can't afford to have any form of the flu for several reasons. Having said that, however, I think the Swine Flu is being blown out of proportion by the media and the federal govenment. I don't know the latest numbers but I do remember that, unless something has changed, the Swine Flu kills less people than the regular flu. In fact, most people who get H1N1 survive. However that is no reason not to take the vaccine. After all, it only takes one mutation to cause a massive and deadly pandemic.

 

The flu shot is a scam, the flu strain changes from year to year making the flu shot outdated by the time you get it. You have greater efficiency on your computer using windows 98 than getting the flu shot.

 

Just consider how many people died young from disease before we had vaccines. It is almost irrational to refuse the benefits of modern medicine.

 

Not so. The virii do evolve quickly, but that is exactly why the shot is different each year. It covers the most commonly anticipated strains, but there are new strains that pop up which it doesn't cover.

 

Anticipated? Is that anything like scientific extrapolation?:laugh: How in the world does one anticipate the direction a flew strain will go? That would be like predicting the next direction of a fish.

 

"Every year in the United States, on average 5% to 20% of the population gets the flu; more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from flu complications, and; about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes. Some people, such as older people, young children, and people with certain health conditions, are at high risk for serious flu complications." - SOURCE

I'm sure you are aware of this but, for the sake of others, lets make it clear that the flu is a virus and therefore does not respond to antibiotics. However, as you pointed out, infections (etc) that may follow the flu do. But even that is no guarantee a person will survive. Pneumonia is a very deadly disease mainly for those with asthma or other such conditions.

 

As for the Swine Flu, while 5,514 cases have been reported in the United States only 353 people have died. While that number could go up, and go up fast, at this point it is hardly a reason for panic. People simply need to use common sense.

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That's not true, but I see where the confusion comes in. You're correct that the strain changes seasonally. When vaccinations are given, they are being given for that year's strain. In other words, if you get a flu shot this fall, you are immunizing yourself from the strain of flu that will be prevalent this coming year. The problem lies with procrastinators who don't get the flu shot until spring. By that time, the current flu strain has run its course. Getting the vaccine then won't immunize you from the following winter's flu strain.

If you're going to get vaccinated, it's important to do it before the start of the flu season.

I myself will be getting the flu shot like I normally do. I travel for business, so for me it's a courtesy to others I come into contact with on my business travels.

Whoa, I need to clear up what you said, because a lot of people are guilty of the same thing. Antibiotics have no effect on viruses. Antibiotics are for bacteria, not for viruses. Taking antibiotics has no effect on viruses, including the flu.

One thing I hear a lot is people who say they came down with a cold, went to their doctor, and got antibiotics. You know they're not being genuine, because: 1-the common cold is caused by a virus, not a bacteria; 2-there is no cure for the common cold; 3-doctors don't prescribe antibiotics for colds.

 

Actually the vaccine is not a scam. It prevents people from getting sick and cuts down on the number of flu related deaths. The vaccines are based forecasted on flu patterns (etc). So while the vaccine may not protect against every form of the flu, it does protect against the most common.

 

yea forecasted......