Commit Your Life to Jesus?

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  1. thatbrian

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    Where does one get the idea that one in to "commit his life to Jesus" in order to be saved?

    Repent and be baptized, yes. Jesus's commitment to me, yes. My commitment to Him?! Where does this idea come from, and how would you know if/when your commitment is great enough?
     
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    Beware of MacArthurism. The MacArthurites epitomize Ro 2:24 with their incessant judgment of others (they believe that's what God put them on earth to do, to EXAMINE others):

    "For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you, even as it is written."

    If you're not on the band wagon of Lordship Salvation you're going to hell. You are a false professor bound for hell.

    Hell, hell, hell, hell. False professors. Hell, hell, hell, hell.

    They need to trust the Lord and get a life.
     
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    Mat_16:24 Then Jesus told his disciples, "If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

    When you get Baptized you are saying the old man (sinful man) is gone and you are now raised (resurrected) to be a new man. (Romans 6:4)
     
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    The phrase, thatbrian uses "commit ones life" resonates a bit with Lordship Salvation
    but I think most of us would agree that it is not words or deeds that save us but a commitment from a sincere heart.

    Jesus simply asks us to believe (John 3:14-18); it is contrasted with unbelief.

    In the OT the words commit and trust are synonyms.

    Psalm 37:5 (NIV)
    Commit your way to the Lord;
    trust in him and he will do this:​

    NT uses of the word trust can usually be interchanged with the word believe.

    The person that believes certainly trusts and commits themselves to the One to whom their faith is directed.
    Their faith need only be as large as a mustard seed - for once it is placed, God himself is trustworthy.

    Rob
     
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    Go on Icon, be big boy and write why you disagree rather than just hit a negative rating.

    Rob
     
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    Do you seriously believe you can be a Christian without being utterly devoted to Christ?

    Matthew 22:36-40New International Version
    36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

    37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’a]">[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’b]">[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
     
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    Wow. Talk about winning the biggest strawman ever on BB. Congrats!

    Then there is taking Scripture out of context, Romans 2:24 and slathering it on those you've misrepresented. It's quite a blatant misuse of Scripture, even for a person, such as yourself, who holds to mysticism and sees salvation in those who don't know Christ.

    Maybe you're a universalist? It certainly appears that way. You deny hell, i.e. false professors going there, and believe those who don't even know Christ, are heaven bound.

    As far as hell for false professors. Yep. It's true. 'Many will say to me on that day Lord Lord...then will I profess to them 'I never knew you, you who work lawlessness'. See Matthew 7.

    kyredneck, you have straw man on the brain, twisting Scripture on the brain, Lordship Salvation on the brain, which, by the way is Scriptural, but you twist its truths into a straw man. And then you have hell on the brain.

    And lastly, you certainly don't like the fact that false professors will end up in 'hell, hell, hell' but they most certainly will as demonstrated by the solemn words of Christ.
     
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    You've heard the truth as to why in the past, and disregard it in your error riddled free grace theology. Thus reiterating the truth to you would be pointless, right?
     
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    "Deacon,
    okay Deacon , now that i am at a keyboard i will. I did not know that posting the red disagree icon means I am not "a big boy".
    All of the cry babies had them remove the other emoticons....I like the ones on benjamins site better.

    I do not agree with your observation as posted. maybe you could elaborate on your post a bit?
    When i read brian's OP it seemed pretty direct. Kyreds misguided post might have steered you wrong.
    How do you think it speaks of Lordship salvation?
    What is your understanding of Lordship salvation?
    Do you believe someone can be saved and not have Jesus as His Lord?


    Is it okay if most of us do not agree with this statement also?

    disagree...unless you are speaking of a "new heart". What natural man has a "sincere heart"?

    I do not see jesus asking anyone a question in your jn 3 verses.....where did he ask Nicodemus anything ...He declared to him what was needful....unbelief is the default position of the natural man....he is not in neutral...he is a hater of God.

    God grants repentance and faith to man.....until He places it in man, it cannot be used. There you go:Thumbsup:Thumbsup:Thumbsup
     
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    Yea I've thought about that; probably Lu 18:11 is more fitting; "God, I thank thee, that I am not as the rest of men".

    My mysticism goes no deeper than Jn 3:8.

    To be 'saved' is to actively obey the gospel and subsequently know Christ. But His children are totally passive (Jn 1:13) in the heavenly birth which must occur BEFORE they can ever know Christ.

    Nah. I'm just a slow heller, and not a rabid heller as some I know of around here.

    Exactly how does this passage apply to Christians participating/interacting on an internet message board? And how can your incessant fuming hell fire damnation on an internet message board possibly change the count of those whom Christ knows?
     
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    I recently preached on Luke 5:27-28, the calling of Levi/Matthew. Like all proper sermons ;) it had three headings all beginning with the same letter:
    Finding
    Forsaking
    Following

    The finding is done by Christ, but the forsaking and the following are done by us in the power of the Holy Spirit (Psalm 110:3; Ephesians 2:10). If there is no forsaking (of the old life) and following, why would one suppose that there has been finding? If there is no commitment from us to Him, why would we think that there is commitment from Him to us (John 2:23-25)?
     
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    MacArthur scares me. I've met a few MacArthurites, and they have all been legalists to their core. It's not what Jonny Mac puts into his teaching that the issue, but it's what he leaves out.

    Piper is nor far behind with the constant "fruit inspection". That's no way for a child of God to live. The fear, instability and uncertainty this fruit imprecation creates is proof enough that it's not gospel.
     
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    Is that the question that the OP is asking?

    Also, are you saying that you are a) utterly devoted to Christ, and always have been, and b) that as a result of your utter devotion you are a Christian?
     
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