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    how many communists are there too many just look and see if your community is airing free speech TV and deep dish TV know who's behind them and ask your community to stop the communist propaganda please follow this link and pass it along to as many as possible

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    :confused: what? moveon.org is not communist. Anti-Republican and anti-Bush, but not communist.
     
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    look at who's behind the scenes communist organizations all peace loving groups look
    deeper George Soros and company merkle etc
    look the guy who started real video on and
    move on.communist
     
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    There may or may not be communists in the memebrship of moveon.org. However, the important thing to remember is there are no stalinists in the organization. Communist\Marxist is a political position which should bring no more repurcussions to its adherents than membership in the Libertation Party or the John Birch Society. The problem in the '50s wasn't communism; it was Leninism and Stalinism.

    Leninism being defined as: The Communist Party is the only source of political power.

    Stalinism being defined as: The Communist Party of the Soviet Union (aka the Kremlin) is the leader of all Communist Parties around the world. In other words, under Stalinism, members of the CPUSA were expected to follow Moscow's direction on matters.
     
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    administrator I hope you have read my previous post communism kills and to the extreme and communism is permeating our society through our
    universities with I might add their Anti-God propaganda
     
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    If you will note, I did not say being a communist should not have any repercussions. I said being a communist should have no more.... I'll match my anti-communist qualifications against yours any day of the week and twice on sunday.
     
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    Who resurrected Joe McCarthy?
     
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    The aclu has never really sworn off their communist roots and still seek to bring down the USA using our own Constitution to do it. IMHO
     
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    Marism/Leninism is a world view that many liberal ascribe to wheather they admit it or not. True moveon.org may not have card carrying communists, but the world view of its supporters would be communistic.
     
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    And I would agree to that last statement.
     
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    Sources please.

    The ACLU has protected the rights of many Christians, including recent cases involving street preachers and children's rights in school.
     
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    Some ACLU cases protecting the rights of Christians:

    After ACLU Intervention on Behalf of Christian Valedictorian, Michigan High School Agrees to Stop Censoring Religious Yearbook Entries
    http://www.aclu.org/StudentsRights/StudentsRights.cfm?ID=15680&c=159

    Iowa Civil Liberties Union Defends Right of Students to Wear Anti-Abortion T-Shirts
    http://www.aclu.org/StudentsRights/StudentsRights.cfm?ID=18159&c=159

    ACLU Helps Free New Mexico Street Preacher From Prison
    http://www.aclu.org/ReligiousLiberty/ReligiousLiberty.cfm?ID=18887&c=29
     
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    Communism is, indeed, an indistinct term, since it covers things from Lenin to the hippies in the communal living house downtown.

    But as for the general desire of the left to tear down the traditional America and replace it with something socialist, they tend to be relativists ethically. Whatever promotes the revolution is good, what impedes it is bad.

    This being the case, they've always been known for the strategy of drawing back the hammer so as to strike all the harder. The ACLU does take some cases that help our side. It's part of the overall campaign to accomplish what their founder said: "communism is the goal."

    That says nothing about any individual who is a member of the ACLU. It's true that a mere 95% of lawyers give the whole profession a bad name, so I readily admit that there are good people in the ACLU.
     
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    here's my view of ACLU they are typically anti-family anti-american anti-christian therefore christians should not support them and not believe they have the country's best interest in mind

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    ACLU's war against the poor
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    Storm troopers of the American Civil Liberties Union have chalked up their latest victory in their ongoing campaign to stamp out any hint of religion in American public life.

    Under threat of an ACLU-initiated lawsuit, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors voted to remove a small cross from the seal of the State of California because of its alleged unconstitutional endorsement of Christianity.

    Contrary to ACLU claims, these actions make our country less rather than more free.

    This is of more than academic interest to me. The ACLU has invaded my home turf. The headquarters of my organization, the Coalition for Urban Renewal and Education (CURE), is in Los Angeles. But, more importantly, the ACLU is invading my turf in an ideological battle for the hearts, minds and souls of African-Americans in deeply damaged inner-city communities that CURE works to help rehabilitate.

    ACLU has my folks targeted. From the ACLU Web site: "We work also to extend rights to segments of our population that have traditionally been denied their rights, including Native Americans and other people of color; lesbians, gay men and transgendered people; mental-health patients; prisoners; people with disabilities; and the poor. If the rights of society's most vulnerable members are denied, everybody's rights are imperiled."

    My constituency is the poor, particularly the African-American poor, and I have a far different sense of what this community's problems and needs are than does the ACLU.

    It is instructive, for instance, to scan through the groups that ACLU has lumped together under its umbrella of the oppressed. Freedom means nothing if one does not believe that, at the individual level, people have some kind of free choice. However, apparently for the scholars at the ACLU, there is no distinction in the role that personal choice plays regarding one's race, criminal behavior, sexual lifestyle, physical disabilities or economic status.

    I started CURE 10 years ago as result of my personal experience with the welfare state and my conviction that its politics and programs destroy the very communities they claim to help. After seven years on welfare, I saw how the politics of entitlement and victimization destroy human dignity and initiative and produce slaves on a government welfare plantation rather than free, responsible human beings. My personal experience, along with data showing the damage that 40 years of welfare state politics has produced in America's inner-cities, paints a convincing picture that the welfare state/ACLU worldview produces anything but freedom and free men and women.

    The truth of the matter is that the ACLU crusade against religion is a crusade against the core religious and moral values that have essentially been the software of the success of American freedom. The smokescreen under which this operation takes place is an illusion that for every religious symbol purged, we produce a more neutral and fair country. This is anything but true. Nature abhors a vacuum, and the purge of one value amounts to its replacement with another. In this case, traditional values of right, wrong and personal responsibility are displaced by relativism, materialism and, ultimately, the product of both of these, nihilism.

    The civil-rights movement was defined by religion and moral passion. It was led by a black Christian pastor who never could have weathered the storm of daily death threats without being driven by a deep personal faith. His most famous speech, standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, was laced with references to God and faith and a coming together of God's children.

    As the civil-rights movement became politicized by ACLU-type liberals, values and personal responsibility were displaced by victimization politics. The result has been a social catastrophe in the African-American community. Thanks again to ACLU-type liberals, public schools that black children are forced to attend have purged all traditional values from education and, as a result, children have no clue why they are there and what the point is in education. These children are already most likely severely disadvantaged by coming from broken homes, also the product of the political purge of traditional values.

    We now pay tribute to a great American president, Ronald Reagan, who inspired our nation with the vision of Puritan leader John Winthrop of a "city on a hill." Traditional values are woven into the fabric of America. African-Americans have paid a dear price for unfortunate moments in American history when they were not viewed as part of that fabric.

    Let's not confuse a free and tolerant society with one with no moral underpinnings. Those moral underpinnings make it all possible.


    (Star Parker is president of CURE, the Coalition for Urban Renewal and Education ( www.urbancure.org ). She is author of "Uncle Sam's Plantation: How Big Government Enslaves America's Poor and What You Can Do About It.")


    ©2004 Star Parker


    just an end note communism is not the answer
     
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    if you want to know the truth it will set you free

    Christians you must know the truth about the ACLU



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    Posted: August 25, 2005
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    Editor's note: Be sure to get your copy of Alan Sears' powerful new book, "The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values."
    © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


    One of the great myths of the 20th – and now 21st – century is the belief that the American Civil Liberties Union was an organization that had a noble beginning, but somehow strayed off course.

    That myth is untrue. The ACLU set a course to destroy America – her freedom and her values – right from the start.

    From its very beginning, the ACLU had strong socialist and communist ties. As early as 1931, the U.S. Congress was alarmed by the ACLU's devotion to communism. A report by the Special House Committee to Investigate Communist Activities stated


    The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its efforts are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law. It claims to stand for free speech, free press and free assembly, but it is quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is an attempt to protect the communists.


    Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman founded the ACLU in 1920 along with three other organizations dedicated to the most leftist of causes. The histories of these two individuals belie their claims of patriotism and respect for the Constitution.

    Baldwin openly sought the utter destruction of American society. Fifteen years after the founding of the ACLU, Baldwin wrote:


    I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself ... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.


    Earl Browder, the general secretary of the Communist Party of the United States, admitted that the ACLU served as a "transmission belt" for the party. Baldwin agreed, claiming, "I don't regret being a part of the communist tactic which increased the effectiveness of a good cause."

    Baldwin was a devoted follower of the anarchist Emma Goldman (or "Red Emma" as she was called), who was eventually deported to the Soviet Union in 1919 for her communist activities. Goldman was a consistent promoter of anarchism, radical education, "free love" and birth control. According to an online exhibit of Goldman's papers, her career "served as inspiration for Roger Baldwin, a future founder of the American Civil Liberties Union."

    Eastman was a zealous feminist, an anti-war activist, and a great admirer of the Soviet revolution. Of her many leftist friends and associates, Eastman held the highest regard for Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. According to Eastman, "We [feminists] must all be followers of Margaret Sanger."

    Of course, Sanger was a passionate advocate of eugenics – the attempt to improve the human race through selective breeding. Abortion was a primary means to this "improvement," leading Sanger to write, "The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."

    Baldwin also was a great admirer of the Planned Parenthood founder. He heaped praise on Sanger: "She was a frail, beautiful, unassuming woman ... She always had a quiet insistence on the rightness of what she was doing."

    This adoration of Sanger set the tone for the tragic history of the ACLU concerning the issue of abortion. To this day, the group fights for the most extreme of pro-abortion positions, including support for partial-birth abortion and opposition to parental consent for minors.



    But the radical agenda hardly ends there. In his wedding vows, Baldwin called marriage as between one man and one woman "a grim mockery of essential freedom." He added, "The highest relationship between a man and a woman is that which welcomes and understands each other's loves."

    The result is that today the ACLU is a leading advocate of same-sex "marriage," and has expressed support for polygamy and polyamory ("open" marriage) as well. The ACLU Policy Guide reads:


    The ACLU believes that criminal and civil laws prohibiting or penalizing the practice of plural marriage [polygamy or polyamory] violate constitutional protections of freedom of expression and association, freedom of religion, and privacy for personal relationships among consenting adults.


    While many accept the ACLU as a mainstream organization, their history tells a drastically different story. Organizations such as the Alliance Defense Fund are dedicated to exposing the myth that the ACLU is working hard for the First Amendment rights of Americans. Instead of being an organization that simply took a "wrong turn," the ACLU has devoted itself from the very beginning to the devastation of America's most cherished traditions, values, and laws.


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    Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor in the Reagan administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, America's largest legal alliance defending religious liberty through strategy, training, funding and litigation. He is co-author with Craig Osten of the new book "The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values."


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    If you want to know the truth it will set you free
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    The ACLU's shocking legacy

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    Posted: August 25, 2005
    1:00 a.m. Eastern

    Editor's note: Be sure to get your copy of Alan Sears' powerful new book, "The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values."
    © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com


    One of the great myths of the 20th – and now 21st – century is the belief that the American Civil Liberties Union was an organization that had a noble beginning, but somehow strayed off course.

    That myth is untrue. The ACLU set a course to destroy America – her freedom and her values – right from the start.

    From its very beginning, the ACLU had strong socialist and communist ties. As early as 1931, the U.S. Congress was alarmed by the ACLU's devotion to communism. A report by the Special House Committee to Investigate Communist Activities stated


    The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its efforts are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law. It claims to stand for free speech, free press and free assembly, but it is quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is an attempt to protect the communists.


    Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman founded the ACLU in 1920 along with three other organizations dedicated to the most leftist of causes. The histories of these two individuals belie their claims of patriotism and respect for the Constitution.

    Baldwin openly sought the utter destruction of American society. Fifteen years after the founding of the ACLU, Baldwin wrote:


    I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself ... I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.


    Earl Browder, the general secretary of the Communist Party of the United States, admitted that the ACLU served as a "transmission belt" for the party. Baldwin agreed, claiming, "I don't regret being a part of the communist tactic which increased the effectiveness of a good cause."

    Baldwin was a devoted follower of the anarchist Emma Goldman (or "Red Emma" as she was called), who was eventually deported to the Soviet Union in 1919 for her communist activities. Goldman was a consistent promoter of anarchism, radical education, "free love" and birth control. According to an online exhibit of Goldman's papers, her career "served as inspiration for Roger Baldwin, a future founder of the American Civil Liberties Union."

    Eastman was a zealous feminist, an anti-war activist, and a great admirer of the Soviet revolution. Of her many leftist friends and associates, Eastman held the highest regard for Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. According to Eastman, "We [feminists] must all be followers of Margaret Sanger."

    Of course, Sanger was a passionate advocate of eugenics – the attempt to improve the human race through selective breeding. Abortion was a primary means to this "improvement," leading Sanger to write, "The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."

    Baldwin also was a great admirer of the Planned Parenthood founder. He heaped praise on Sanger: "She was a frail, beautiful, unassuming woman ... She always had a quiet insistence on the rightness of what she was doing."

    This adoration of Sanger set the tone for the tragic history of the ACLU concerning the issue of abortion. To this day, the group fights for the most extreme of pro-abortion positions, including support for partial-birth abortion and opposition to parental consent for minors.



    But the radical agenda hardly ends there. In his wedding vows, Baldwin called marriage as between one man and one woman "a grim mockery of essential freedom." He added, "The highest relationship between a man and a woman is that which welcomes and understands each other's loves."

    The result is that today the ACLU is a leading advocate of same-sex "marriage," and has expressed support for polygamy and polyamory ("open" marriage) as well. The ACLU Policy Guide reads:


    The ACLU believes that criminal and civil laws prohibiting or penalizing the practice of plural marriage [polygamy or polyamory] violate constitutional protections of freedom of expression and association, freedom of religion, and privacy for personal relationships among consenting adults.


    While many accept the ACLU as a mainstream organization, their history tells a drastically different story. Organizations such as the Alliance Defense Fund are dedicated to exposing the myth that the ACLU is working hard for the First Amendment rights of Americans. Instead of being an organization that simply took a "wrong turn," the ACLU has devoted itself from the very beginning to the devastation of America's most cherished traditions, values, and laws.


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    Alan Sears, a former federal prosecutor in the Reagan administration, is president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, America's largest legal alliance defending religious liberty through strategy, training, funding and litigation. He is co-author with Craig Osten of the new book "The ACLU vs. America: Exposing the Agenda to Redefine Moral Values."


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