Competition Key to Health Care Reform,

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  1. Revmitchell

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    #1 Revmitchell, Mar 5, 2009
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    Amen. WHY, oh why must we believe that more GOVERNMENT is the solution to every problem when it has screwed up everything else we have entrusted to it??
     
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    Because so many are now sucking the government teat that the withdrawal pangs would be inhumane!:BangHead:
     
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    This proposal won't mean less government involvement since someone still has to pay for the insurance. Making it more affordable and insuring people are two different items. We will also have to guarantee minimum standards. You don't want to need that life saving cancer pill to find it's not covered under your plan but would have been covered on every other plan.

    As long as the Health Care insurers play those kinds of tricks and discriminate on who can and can't be covered, what will and won't be covered there will be government watching over them.
     
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    I have news for you. This little libbie game being played on words isn't fooling anyone. Fie and police services do not amount to socialism but is distinctly different than welfare. Neither is limited regulation on insurance equivalent to NH. And quite frankly it is intellectually dishonest to assert such.
     
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    Fire and police are still examples of spreading the wealth when the rich pay their salaries but the poor use their services. You can't have it both ways, either we spread the wealth or we don't. Choosing to selectively spread the wealth is just another way of discriminating against the have nots...

    I have no problem with limited insurance regulation however, that is what the public outcry is all about in this nation. Because of limited regulation they have chosen which procedure they will pay for, what medicine you can and can't have, who can and can't be covered etc... We will end up in the same place we are now if only the most fit and able people get insurance and the rest are relegated to sub-caliber policies that don't really cover much. It puts the expense right back on the government in the form of Medicaid/Medicare which is how we got where we are.

    Guess who pays for all the HIV patients? You think private insurance will affordably pick them up? So then who pays, we do... The tax payers... Don't you want that monkey off your back so we can move toward less government?
     
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    Oh, and PS... competition is just another way of saying I will insure the best fit in this country and have rates so high for the others that they will gladly go to my competition... The problem is the competition thinks the same which leaves them nowhere to go... Gonna have to deal with that and this puppy is up to bat. We can walk him like we have in the past but it won't take him out of the game... I think now is the time to pitch to him so we can get him out...
     
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    You are so funny. I really can't help but laugh.:laugh: Not that you mean to be. But fire and police services as examples of spreading the wealth, or the rich paying for services which only serve the poor? Are you sure you wouldn't rather rethink this before continuing to make such statements!





    When the fire department or police show up to protect the citizens or their property..... they serve rich and poor alike. They don't ask how deep or how shallow are your pockets before they apprehend a shop lifter, or take someone in for passing a bad check, or stop or catch a felon, or inspect businesses, and institutions for fire code compliance.... or fight a fire and stop its spread whether its in a place of business, a gated community, or a shack someone lives in in grown up woods. And, while some of their funds may come from the general revenu of state and federal dollars, it is the custom in my state that the fire department is separately assessed and fees charged to all property holders...... which are usually the ones to most benefit from their services.


    Now, maybe you consider having a government job that is kept short staffed by lean budgets enough to practically all but guarantee job stability is 'distributing the wealth'...... but to most in these services..... and especially the police peace keepers..... I'll bet they have a different opinion regarding their wages for the risks and the bunk they have to put up with!
     
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    No they are not. Not even close. But nice talking points chatter
     
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    The Republican twist... You added the word ONLY as in "...only serve the poor". I simply said the poor uses these services while it is those who have the ability who pays for them. When you call 911, they don't ask your tax bracket. They respond equally to the poor who didn't pay a dime as they do to the rich who pays the entire tab.
     
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    Yes it is, just like using the airport, library and driving on a public road is equally spreading the wealth. The rich pay for it and the poor benefit by using it free of charge. Don't want to face reality Rev??? We spread the wealth...
     

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