Concerning liberal insanity...there is hope!

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  1. D28guy

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    We all know the lunacy of liberal nonsense run amuck.

    We can murder babies...but we cant post the 10 commandments in schools.

    We can promote Al Queda in universities...but we cant recruit for the military.

    Etc etc etc...

    But here is a quote from a newspaper from a city 12 miles from here in Kentucky. Its regarding what is going on at our state capitol in Frankfort...

    There is hope, folks!

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    Mike
     
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    Praying that it will pass and that the 10 commandments will be re-erected in every state and local government building in America.

    George Washington once said, "One cannot rightly rule a government without God" He was right.
     
  3. Daisy

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    Except for those of us who realize that the great majority of it is misrepresentation and grossly absurd exaggeration by rightwing attack dogs whose hobby seems to be making strawmen and knocking them down.
    Who promotes al Qaeda in American universities? Recruiting for al Qaeda will get you disappeared to Guantanamo Bay.

    Understanding Islam and various Middle Eastern countries and societies within those countries is NOT "promoting" al Qaeda - it's education, you know, knowledge and understanding are what universities are supposed to promote.

    The US military does recruit on university campuses so I don't see why you say they can't. They also require high schools to turn over their student lists for recruitment purposes or risk losing any aid they may receive.

    Now that's a telling indictment of liberalism - or of something quite the opposite.

    There is hope, folks!

    </font>[/QUOTE]That's nice if they can do it so as not to violate the Constitution, which would mean that it could not be a purely religious display. Is the 1st Amendment a liberal law or simply an American law?

    By the way, I tried your link and a search, but couldn't find the article - do you have the date of the article and the reporter's name?
     
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    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

    What does the 1st Amendment have to do with putting a Ten Commandments monument on the State Capitol grounds?
     
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    please check out this organization good things are happening with this group

    yaf.org/
     
  6. Daisy

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    If the display is purely religious, then it is promoting one religion above all others. However, if the display is historical, then it may be allowed by not being seen as promoting or prefering one religion over others.
     
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    And if it is promoting one religion above all others, how is that Congress making a law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercixe thereof?
     
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    "Concerning liberal insanity...there is hope!"

    Yeah there's hope that someday people will see that the people that started pushing it was zionist media owners to ruin the morals of our country and they're still pushing it today for the same goal.
     
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    Daisy,

    The article is in the March 2nd edition of the Richmond Register newspaper, in Richmond Ky. It is originally from the Associated Press and the author is Bruce Schreiner.

    God bless,

    Mike
     
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    Daisy,

    It must really drive you crazy, what with all of those scripture passages chisled in the very stone of all those important United States government buildings in Washington DC.

    According to liberals, we today have a more *enlightened* view of what the founding fathers had in mind for the scriptures than the very founding fathers themselves.

    And btw, the founding fathers never believed that one must be a christian to be a citizen of this country, but it is abundantly clear that the moral teachings found in the scriptures be the foundation of our nations laws.

    But of course now liberals can read their minds from their graves and they know better...

    Mike
     
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    Daisy,

    The first amendment forbids the government to pass a law establishing a religion or prohibiting the exercise of a religion. The display of the ten commandments, even if it is a purely religious display, does not violate that principle except in the mind of a court that is more interested in pushing a philosophy than in interpreting the law AS IT IS WRITTEN.

    As long as the display reflects the values of the community, there is not a single thing wrong with it. This was the common understanding in this country up until the 20th century. If someone is offended about the display, it does not mean that they cannot freely practice their religion, even if the religion is secular humanism.

    Establishment means that you cannot outlaw one religion and require another. This has been stretched to ridiculous lengths these days to mean that government needs to worry about who they might offend. This is a liberal idea, and it is not supported by the constitution despite what the federal courts may have ruled.

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    SOURCE
     
  13. Daisy

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    No, why would it?

    Um, could you be more specific as to which liberals? There are several versions of the Official Handbook floating around and they vary quite drastically from one another.

    Did you hear this directly from actual liberals - if so, which - or filtered through some talk-radio host?

    Many of the founding fathers were renown in their own time for their "enlightenment".

    You know, I hear that alot, but I never could find the passage in the Bible advocating that men should make their own laws, nor have I found the part about setting tariffs. I also find it odd that of the 10 Cs, only three (#6, #8 & #9) are actual law enforceable at the Federal level with #9 only so under oath and #8 depending on the amount.

    You seem to have mistaken New Agers for liberals - I'm not claiming not that no liberal exists who "channel", just that it is a very unusual claim which I have not heard any make.

    I think the way determining original intent works is that historians read the actual texts, correspondance and documents of the times. The better class of conservatives do this as well.

    Thanks for the article reference, Mike.
     
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    So, according to some of the logic displayed here, it would be fine if there was a display of verses from the Quran on display by itself at the courthouse, and that would not constitute establishment of Islam as a state endorsed religion? How about the Wiccan Rede? Or maybe some verse from the Satanic Bible posted in public school classrooms? Keeping religion and government from interfering with one another has worked pretty well for both church and state, despite neocon efforts to tear down the wall.
     
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    There is no wall.
     
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    Except for those of us who realize that the great majority of it is misrepresentation and grossly absurd exaggeration by rightwing attack dogs whose hobby seems to be making strawmen and knocking them down.
    Who promotes al Qaeda in American universities? Recruiting for al Qaeda will get you disappeared to Guantanamo Bay.
    </font>[/QUOTE]I believe his name is Ward Churchill a tenured professor at the University of Colorado.
     
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    Magnetic poles...

    No...this country was not founded on the satanic Quran, with the moral teachings found in the Quran being the desired "moral compass" for this country.

    Neither did the founding Fathers ever desire for the satanic Wiccan teachings to be the moral compass for this country.

    Ditto regarding satanism.

    For a long time it did real well, until liberals decided that christianity is an evil to be avoided in the public sector, while unimaginable evil such as baby extermination centers are now considered to be a good thing.

    In case you have been living in a cave somewhere for a few decades, the more we as a society divorce ourselves from the moral compass the founding fathers desired for this country...the "right and wrongs" as defined in the scriptures of God...the more chaotic, dangerous, lawless and evil this society becomes as we proceed decade after to decade to flush ourselves down into the proverbial toilet of depravity and evil.

    God help us...

    Mike
     
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    I still see no answer from you leftys on here. Because you have none.
     
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    There is hope, folks!

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    </font>[/QUOTE]To a degree you are right. The liberals (democrats) are for the most part a stench on our country for all the things you listed. The problem is that it DOES NOT mean that conservatives (republicans) are Godly. They are also a stench on our country, maybe in a different way, but in the final analysis, just as self serving as the others. Neither is worthy of the trust of the American people. The United States needs Godly leaders, and this will not be found in the present establishment.
     
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    I read his "outrageous" lecture. I didn't think it promoted al Qaeda, but explained some of the rationale.

    But if you have a statement of his that does promote al Qaeda, please share it.
     

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