Conspiracy Fact: Every Major Terror Plot In U.S. Was Contrived

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  1. poncho

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    In light of Pentagon shooting, recent history proves that domestic terror is a government specialty.

    The highly suspicious Pentagon shooting, which has been used as grist for the establishment’s aggressive smear campaign to portray dissent against government as violent extremism, is beginning to bear the hallmarks of almost every other major case we have studied where the authorities have not only had prior knowledge of the plot but have in fact facilitated it from beginning to end.​

    The revelation that shooter John Patrick Bedell’s parents warned authorities that their son was missing, armed, and dangerous, echoes similar warnings that were given to officials prior to the Christmas Day underwear bomber attack, which is just one indication amongst a plethora that the Delta 253 incident was a false flag set-up.​

    Just a brief reprisal of the last handful of major terror cases in the United States instantly reminds us that in every single instance the plot was artificially engineered by the federal government and then later seized upon, with the enthusiastic support of the corporate media, as justification for more funding, more power, and more authority to denounce critics of the war on terror and dissent against the state in general​


    This of course meshes perfectly with this . . .​


    It's called herding.

    1 a : to gather, lead, or drive as if in a herd b : to keep or move (animals) together

    MOOOOO!​
     
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    "Warned California authorities" doesn't tell me anything. What authorities? Did they make a formal report and get some kind of case number?

    If you were a "police authority" exactly what you you do with the information?
     
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    You need to come back to planet earth....seriously.
     
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    What is not obvious to the general population, nor even apparent in those who attend college and study courses in or related to general psychology or abnormal psychology or socialogy, is that, while these may be studied and used in a practical application of business (such as persuasion and sales) or a therapeutic use to helping those with mental or emotional illness to cope with reality and live out normal lives......... it is also an area of intensive study, use, experimentation and diabolical practical application utilized by those intent on control of others.

    Both intelligence organizations and DOD have had their on going studies, some in the public eye, perhaps associated with graduate programs, but most with secret or classified studies, both to determine how to modify behaviors in individuals and groups, studies in the power of suggestion, the study of occult and psychic phenomenom and propaganda techniques. Frequently a control group such as those within the military, may be subjects of a clandestined study without their even knowing it.

    The average person is unaware of such studies and may even be caught up in an experiment without even knowing that he/she is contributing to data which may well be used to control and 'herd' him. It is not a comfortable subject to recognize. Indeed, it can be so offensive to even imagine that we could be subjects in an experiment of mind control or behavior modification, that the average person will dismiss that such can be possible or that he/she can be an unwitting participant: So most will do as they've been trained and deny any opinion, or proof which will come their way. Somethings are easier for most people if left alone or denied rather than even thought about with the idea of staying vigilant and perhaps discovering the truth. For many, it is a matter of feeling overwhelmed by what first seems like bizarre explanations which place the 'reality' (which they had hitherfore accepted as being their safety zone of security), into a warp in which they first feel is beyond their control (in discovering the involvement of too many unknowns and questions concerning institutions which they'd always accepted and trusted).

    This is where our faith meets the road in those biblical admonitions to place our confidence and trust in God, and to be cautious (not the same as paranoid) of 'men' (or systems or institutions)[the heart of whom is wicked and who can know it] who expect our unconditional trust.

    [For those who find such 'talk' difficult to believe and would rather keep their denial: Jesus teaches that to live in this world we must be wise as serpents and meek as doves: A serpent is an evil critter who is sneaky and clever, can inflict damage or death with his bite. It can look pretty or inticing, and may even tolerate play for a while, but its mind cannot be known, and, when it strikes, it is with deadly and calculated intent. A dove is quietly content, trusting, innocent in appearance. She is strong in flight. The nest is modestly built and not very fashionable nor designed with permanance. The nesting parents share in the care and protection of their young. The young are fed with a liquid called crop milk. She's not at all a bird of prey and is gentle in her ways and a threat to no one. A number of different fowl are considered 'kosher' but only the dove was accepted as an animal sacrifice. A dove may represent peace, and some regard it as a symbol of the holy spirit. However, in modern symbolism, the word 'dove' may represent moderate to liberal and pacifist possistions.... in contrast with 'hawk' which is often considered synnomous with conservative and militaristic. In my personal opinion, this 'modern' characterization and usage is a diabolically flawed misrepresentation.]

    To return to the meat of the topic...... Whatever the motivations or the controls behind the incidents involving these apparently unbalanced individuals..... to associate their bizarre or criminal actions to groups of people or organizations on the mere pretense that they disagree with government policies is a deliberate calculation to either stop people from joining or participating in dissent and free speach and to ingender fear that they as individuals or groups may be targeted. When JFK was assassinated..... the earliest that I remember of this 'planting seeds to target certain groups'....... the first suspicion voiced from the mouth of a MSM reporter was could this be the act of a right wing, anti-Catholic fundamentalist Christian group. When MLK was assassinated, similar remarks were planted concerning right wing southern conservatives and white supremicist groups. Whatever was behind the JFK assasination may not be known as the government did the investigation and then sealed it from the public. This, in itself, is troubling in a country where we expect both trust and transparancy from government: For what purpose is served to withhold from the people the findings of an investigation by the government unless the government is involved in the crime or people in high places are purposely being protected from a plot of their making or acquiscence? With MLK, his family did a thourough investigation of what they could find out with some insider information and finally won a law suit for the government's own secret involvement ..... perhaps designed with the intent of starting a racial war to create the chaos for a martial law or military intervention .....or make laws which would increase control on the people. Whatever was in the plan, fortunately it didn't work. MLK was against the Nam war..... and by the time it did wear down..... so were most of the people when they realized it was a war we were never meant to win.

    It is time...... and high time....... we start thinking as the people God made us to be....... instead of behaving like animals and being herded like cattle which will follow the same path or bolt with the crowd at the panic of one. We only have one to fear...... and that is God. When we let man design and program our fear.....we've lost contact and faith in the One who created us and is the only one we can unreservedly trust.
     
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    How do the conspiracy theorists know that they are not the target group of this "diabolical practical application" of "mind control or behavior modification" by the government? :eek:

    Perhaps the purpose is to "herd" the conspiracy theorists so far over the top that they marginalize themselves and thereby allow the government to continue to act with impunity against the rest of the population !!! :mad:

    Perhaps we need to kidnap a member of the Trilateral Commission or the Bilderber Group and waterboard them until we get to the bottom of this and expose it once and for all !!! :rolleyes:
     
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    The writer of the Prison Planet article :)rolleyes:) thinks that when FBI agents investigate and infiltrate plots, it's a sign of conspiricy. And when they don't connect the dots and investigate, it's a sign of conspiricy. Sort of like the global warmists, it all proves them right.
     
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    Poncho is off his meds again.
     
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    Absolutely. It is not against the law to be missing, off your medication, acting weird, wearing foil hats or obsessing over government spies around every corner.
     
  9. carpro

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    Paranoia is a tough illness to control.
     
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    I knew nothing of the 'Prison Planet' allegations until recent years. Nor do I have access to short wave, all local t.v. and radio is conservative and MSM fed..... I have no cable t.v., and on the slow dial up internet with a crashing Windows program for all but the last 2 years......... Still I heard enough even on MSM that it is clear that what we're told couldn't all be true because officials contridict their own previous statements, and deny their own previous reports.

    Futhermore.... I wasn't born yesterday and remember other events during my own lifetime of where the youth were drafted to fight a war and be killed 'to protect us from communism' and we were told it was a war to win when really, whatever the reason of its beginning, it quickly became a no win war. We went off the silver standard during my youth, inflation began to rise about the time I started work and tried to return to college and work my way through UNC-CH, gas lines and freezes on wages and prices...... an increasing of government controls which seemed to work no corrective solutions, the warnings of people like Goldwater, Phyllis Shafely, John Stormer, the testimony of William Wurmbraun (sp?).

    Family living elsewhere reported of oil wells cut back to much less than their capacity (and what they'd been pumping), in the NW, while we, in the E, were being told of an oil shortage and oil drying up..... The oil leases that were repeatedly renewed in this part of the country.... and, finally, several test wells drilled....... and, finally, one comes in in a local area, and the news remained local concerning an engineer who brought in the well; he had received official but secret orders to confirm the presence of oil to his company but not to bring any wells in but instead to cap them and report them publically as dry.

    I attended public schools in FL, in NC, and in VA where student led devotions in homeroom started each day...... til the rulling of the SCOTUS. Evolution, if in our text books, was skipped over and not taught...... til I went to junior college and heard it from some but not all of my science teachers. I was so very fortunate to have a Doctor/Dentist Professor teaching my classes in physiology, and anatomy of the head and human body.....who was a Christian ....and was always referring to the wonderful and functional design in how we are made.

    Instructors in sociology taught from a text which gave much credance and credit to the (now debunked) Kinsey reports and the studies of youth and s*xuallity in America Samoa (I well remember the impact some of these were upon some of us in our discussions and how our teacher was encouraging a different look at morality and contesting those with firm Christian beliefs).

    I also remember well my teacher in Comparative Religion, himself a Buddist, refusing any discussions or comparisons of the 3 monotheistic religions....and concentrating on the Eastern philosohies/religions. (In that course, it was like he'd had a knowledge of the Bible because, though he'd refuse any discussion or comparison..... he taught those eastern religions as though they, in their own way, had the same practices and teachings; i.e. prayer vs meditation, be not entangled with the things of this world vs emptying ones self out, peace with God through salvation by Jesus vs nirvana, the golden rule vs do no harm, the doctrine of sin, judgement and salvation, vs the conflicts of evil and good, duties, and reincarnation. It was like he took every truth which some of us believed, and deliberately tried to make it appear as though all religions were the man invented product of reasoning.)

    In other words, I was a subject, an unwitting student participant in the graduated endoctrination creeping in through our media and our schools and into our churches and communities.

    I witnessed the rise of cults which blended the teachings of religions, the use of drugs on campus winked at: The Nam Veterans returning home, some with problems of addiction and stories of drugs use and smuggling drugs out while there..... There were reports of drugs and LSD being part of studies and research under grants on campuses at some universities........ pubically denied.

    I heard the news and entertainment like Ed Sullivan.... describing Castro as a Catholic and denial that he was a communist, and watched him come to power with the silent nod of our endorsement. My dad recalls, much better than I, conflicts in South America where either democracies or dictators were removed, and the involvement of the Catholic Church and its social activists, in the guise of clerics and nuns, contributing to the civil unrest, and our own state departments appearance of taking sides or clandestine operations............ which brought to power the very regimes which seem to make 'good' enemies.

    Let's say there is no such thing as conspiracy. Still the graduated occurrence of changes and events is like it is following a plan or an agenda to break down our moral fiber and faith in God, to discredit the things like work and ownership and individual determination to develop our gifts and talents, the structure of our families, churches, and communities, the centralization of law, distribution of revenue, and control of institutions which should have been kept closer to the people, and the distancing of the people from the powers the people are suppsed to have control. It is also like there's a goal to castrate the people from their hope and their power to make a difference.

    If this is tin foil hat stuff to some of you...... then its either because you're in denial, or blind, or possibly confused and still wondering, or you've already sold out to the gods of this world and don't even see the evils both present and coming which will eventually engulf us all..... I don't know for certainty just how much the 'rapture' may save us out or help us to avoid.... other than the final judgements..... but I do know the Revelation paints a very ugly picture about a rapid rise of evil in the governmental institutions of man where non can count on safety from persecutions......... And I how confidence in how the story ends with the defeat of the Devil and his angles and the reign of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Many who read these threads and study these sayings may do well to watch and be silent but prayerful, keeping quietly and close the circle of your confidence and counsel, but be active in proclaiming the gospel which is the only hope really left for mankind. Those of us who research and talk openly of these things may become the targets in an attempt to silence what's happening.... but it is all in the control and will of God. But those who would sneer and ridicule without considering the influence and justification and even encouragement they might be giving to the influence of evil, had better beware..... Remember the Laodicians, neither hot nor cold, fence sitters and do nothings, wavering to toss into the winning side..... not worth vomit.
     
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    Do you know what is 'paranoia'? It is unrealistic fear, or, as a rephrase, fear not based in reality.
    Do you know what fear is?
    It is false evidence appearing real.
    But, if the evidence is real .....that stories keep changing or that lies are told..... or that explanations don't line up to agree with facts that can be known, or that one has experienced for themselves or witnessed in others the manipulations by degrees..... the evidence is there. Either accept it or deny and ridicule it, but you can't disprove it. Fear is not the same as fact.
    Do you know what faith is?
    It is forsaking all I trust Him (Jesus Christ and his word).
    And perfect love cast out fear (both his love for us.....which is perfect, and our love for Him..... which is not yet perfect but is abiding.)

    Fear is an emotion and can drive people to irrational actions. But the fact is we not only have peace in Christ Jesus, but we can open our eyes, and see and witness to what we see and report our observations to others for their own understanding, to encourage their faith and bring cautious watchfulness in their walk and remind us all that the times are short......even if counted in years or decades...... the times are short for each of us to fulfill God's purpose in our life and calling.
     
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    Some people are more comfortable following the herd. They've forgotten they are not of this world. Instead of standing back and viewing all this as a curious alien using their God given power for thinking they let the government and media control their thoughts and emotions like fear.

    Somewhere along the lines Americans have lost their mistrust for government and replaced it with sheepishly going alongism.

    Because if they don't the terrorists will get them, or the communists will get them, or the Iraqis will get them, or the Iranians will get them, or the Spanish, or the Germans, or Pancho Villa, or Castro or the democrats or the republicans will get them so on so forth pick a group out of a hat they're probably out to get them too! And the government is the only thing that can save them.

    And the only thing government asks in return is to be given more money, more power, and more control.

    And they call me paranoid and gullible? :laugh:

    Silly modern day Americans, history tells you over and over governments go bad so what makes you think your's is any different?


    Conspiracy Cases Regularly Incited by Justice Dept. Plants

    MOOOOOO! Get along little doggie get along.
     
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    Fear is what drives people to accept things they wouldn't under "normal" conditions.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=65038

    Like beg for a big brother police state to keep us all safe from the hyped up bogus and staged threats the government and corporate media use to feed our fears on a daily basis.
     
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    Yep.

    A perfect description of this thread.
     
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    Know what's worse than allowing yourself to be herded through the use of fear?

    Not admitting that you're allowing yourself to be herded through the use of fear. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Yep.

    Being a paranoid conspiracy theorist.
     
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    I don't believe all the conspiracies out their either, but some of what windcatcher does make sense, about use of media, etc. to scare people into a particular behavior.

    It sure seems someone was doing exactly that with all the swine flu hype. All at once we get BOMBARDED with swine flu propaganda, how there will be an epidemic if we don't take this flu shot NOW, although it hadn't been properly tested. . .It sure seemed like a huge effort to get people scared right before BO tried to push his Obamacare on everybody. I thought the relationship between the flu scare and Obamacare was glaringly obvious.

    Now, I don't know that it means our own government planned 9-11, but there sure seems to be SOMETHING evil going on with the powers that be. I think we would be wise to listen to explanations and theories of others, to ponder these things before dismissing them. Sure, there are some crazy theories out there, but with so many, there's a good chance some of them might be right. Maybe we should hear the whole matter out and then decide what to believe.
     
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    The premise of this thread is this:

    Conspiracy Fact: Every Major Terror Plot In U.S. Was Contrived.

    The key word is "every'.

    Only someone with a serious mental condition could believe that. Paranoia is putting it mildly.
     
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    Easy enough to do, there are hundreds of conspiricy sites out there and you have the freedom to read them all.

    Only problem is that they don't discriminate between the rational (The W.H.O. is promoting scares because they want more direct control over economies, in order to promote fairness), and the irrational (Bush is a NAZI, he will nuke N. Korea, Bush will not leave office at the end of his term, the Amero etc). They like em all!
     
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    Some common characteristics of paranoid conspiracy theorists include:

    1. They assume that they are right.

    PCTs assume that their beliefs are correct and that those who don't see things the way they do have been duped or that they need to open their minds.

    2. Their theories cannot be challenged.

    PCTs vehemently oppose any challenges to their theories. The first line of defence is to issue personal attacks (see: ad hominem) against their opponents. These are generally in the form of ridicule; their opponents not having the ability to see "the real truth".


    3. Any evidence will do.

    Any evidence that lends credence to their theories will be uncritically accepted as truth. Any evidence that opposes their theories is dismissed out of hand. The quality of evidence is not important as long as it supports the conspiracy theory.



    Sound familiar?
     

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