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Constitutional Islam

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by El_Guero, Jan 7, 2007.

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  1. snrsvdbygrc

    snrsvdbygrc New Member

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    Ahh but there is an entire nation, a theocratic nation, based upon Islam calling for the destruction of a nation and to rid the world of a specific creed of people and is very outspoken about it, and has millions of followers around the world. The US, Britain and Israel are about the only countries that have not yet turned their head to this fact, even though many of each country's citizens have.

    The difference between our side and their side is that they are honest about what they are fighting for. In the name of tolerance and being PC we come up with every other excuse to be fighting them, and there are many, except we never say the truth of the matter. This is a war of worldviews, religious beliefs, and philosophies. It has been for thousands of years and will continue to be so. The 3,000 people killed on 9/11 were killed because of this country's worldview, religious beliefs and philosophies, which are also aligned with Israel's. That is why those people died and that is why we are at war, anything else is ancillary to the situation and reasons why we fight!
     
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    Good post, snrsvdbygrc. Unfortunately, most Americans just don't get it.
     
  3. El_Guero

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    Really good post!

    I think I have agreed with more posts tonight than I have in the last year . . . OK that was the use of exaggeration . . . .

    ;)

     
  4. hillclimber1

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    What I don't believe in is allowing unfettered entry into our peace loving nation, of the most evil of religions yet conceived. And they are coming in stating the fact that they are going to kill any of us that won't convert to Islam. If we want to continue to allow that, because of an unwillingness to amend the Constitution, then what can I say. We are consenting, no actually enableing the inevitable murder of our citizens.
    And I don't care how we slice it, we either engage this problem head on now, or we'll engage it at some later date and at far more enormous costs in lives.
     
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    double post
     
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    It's already happening. See Voice of the Martyrs.
     
  7. hillclimber1

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    We will always (as long as it lasts) have Congress elected by the electors. As long as we continue in the direction away from Christianity, the less freedoms we'll have. The congress we have now, is anti-Christian anyway. See how it has failed to secure religious freedom in schools and in govt. installations? The time is now to address this threat. But I know we won't.
     
  8. hillclimber1

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    Wow FP you clearly lay out the threat, then you advocate doing nothing, because we must show our love of Christ to these radicals? God will protect us and similar ideas. Then show them kindness, love, respect, etc....while they plot to cut your head off.

    I never thought Christianity would want to become so insignificant, and PC as to place its head on the block, say the words, "turn your heart to Jesus", and have that head rolling down the street.
     
  9. KenH

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    Anyone who comes here legally is welcomed - Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, etc.

    The federal govenment should enforce our laws against illegal immigration.
     
  10. hillclimber1

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    And different from mine also. :)
     
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    Very good:thumbsup:
     
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    There is no need to amend the U.S. constitution and it would be foolish to do so.

    We have sufficient laws on the books to protect our borders and to penalize employers who hire illegal aliens. We just need to enforce them.

    I have news for you folks advocating new legal immigration laws banning Muslims: You can talk until you are blue in the face. It ain't happening.
     
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    You're sure right about that Ken. And we're going to continue ignoring our laws that protect us.
     
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    On that, sadly, we can agree.
     
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    Yes, I agree, too. Since our Republic has now become a failure and our elected officials are all pretty much globalists and owl worshippers and as Republican Henry Hyde told us a few years ago that the Constitution is no longer relevant for today...nothing will be done and the terrorists will have our country sooner rather than later. I only hope the Lord comes back before then.
     
  17. Filmproducer

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    That's part of the problem, not all Muslims are out to kill Christians. Of course, I am not advocating ignoring those people specifically out to kill Christians. As long as American Muslims and/or legal immgrant Muslims are practicing their religion in peace, and are not trying to kill anyone, why not just leave them alone. They have rights, the same rights you and I have as Christians. The same rights all Americans have. It has nothing to do with being PC. Freedom of religion is for all Americans. I am not willing to take that right away from anyone, no matter how much I think their religion is wrong. If you feel that threatened by their religion be diligent about observing Muslims in America, but stop trying to take away their constitutional rights. You cannot place all the blame on Islam in general for the actions of an extremist few. Concentrate your efforts on the extremists and leave the others alone.
     
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    Amen. :thumbs:
     
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    In my own dealings with the INS, I found them to be more interested in making huge processing fees than actually doing anything efficiently.

    The initial form to fill out to get permission to adopt our son and bring him to the US cost $450 to file. Then another $100 to be fingerprinted. Were we paying for efficency? No. The form was to be processed within 4-6 weeks. In week 7, I called and was told that I could file a query and find out about the status of my form in 8 weeks.

    I'm not sure we're even set up to enforce our immigration laws.
     
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    If they are a member of an organization that fosters disciples of murder and mayhem, even though they are peace loving, they are standing for murder and mayhem. Their dollar on the offering plate is going to support the equipping of a young teen with a coat of explosives, who will, under the erroneous idea that he is pleasing God, murder some innocent people. That is how I view the practitioners of Islam. As aiders and abettors of great evil.
    I know I'm definitely on the loosing side of this issue, but we are going to reap a whirlwind of evil from this PC and political stance. But, I believe the Lord will return to call us up to meet Him in the air before it fully engulfs us. And many people we know that are unsaved, will have to pay.
     
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