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Copeland needs two jets.

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Ben W, Jun 22, 2004.

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  1. Ben W

    Ben W Active Member
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    How demonic is the Prosperity Gospel Doctrine? How is it that people can be so easily decieved by so called evangalists that are just out to milk them for as much money as they can get? :rolleyes:

    http://www.apostasywatch.com/_wsn/page3.html
     
    #1 Ben W, Jun 22, 2004
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    Ah, yes, Kenneth "Two-jets" Copeland. Nuff said...

    Yours in Christ

    Matt
     
    #2 Matt Black, Jun 22, 2004
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    I'll chip in a couple of bucks if his first trip is to street preach in downtown Damascus.
     
    #3 Artimaeus, Jun 22, 2004
  4. amixedupmom

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    This is living proof that he is not teaching about Jesus. Jesus went around in rags and with no real personal possessions. It was the word that mattered most not the time it saved him to go from here to there. I'm sure he thought there was a reason he could not do it quickly that he could reach more of the lost. Extravagance and total heartlessness
     
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  5. Mike McK

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    That he's a crook really is the least of his problems.

    God's going to hold him to account for his myriad false teachings before his financial improprieties.
     
    #5 Mike McK, Jun 22, 2004
  6. Ben W

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    It seems such a stark contrast to the Apostle Paul who made tents while he ministered so that he would not be a burden to the church. If more people took his attitude we would not have the problems with the rip off merchants that we have today.
     
    #6 Ben W, Jun 23, 2004
  7. amixedupmom

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    AMEN BEN ......... AMEN [​IMG]
     
    #7 amixedupmom, Jun 23, 2004
  8. Johnv

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    Apostacy Watch? You guys are taking what someone said on his garage website as Gospel? Don't get me wrong, I don't have much nice to say about Kenneth Copeland, but the guy who runs the site isn't exactly a Pulitzer Prize Winner here. Now, if someone could find a source that verifies what he's claiming, and that source isn't a tabloid or commentary site, then I'd be likely to give this guys comments a little more credibility.

    Don't forget, there are tons of sites out there that say Billy Graham and James Kennedy are members of the Masonic order (which they certainly are not).

    btw - I agree with Ben's comments.
     
    #8 Johnv, Jun 23, 2004
  9. Jamal5000

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    I never felt too comfy with these"rich preachers", the ones with the million dollar homes, expensive cars, and extravegant lifestyles. It really bothers me.

    KFC Price's Rolls Royce, TD Jakes' million dollar mansion, and now Kenneth Copeland's Cessna Xs.

    Why don't these preachers use all of this extra cash to help some poor, needy soul who really could use this doe? :confused:
     
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  10. Johnv

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    Jamal, I don't want to present the appearance that, just because a preacher is doing well financially, that he's somehow bilking folks out of money, or misusing ministry funds. In my city, there lives a prominent preacher, who lives in a home that's worth about a million dollars. But, he's lived there for some 40 years, and bought it when it was about $40,000 or so. I don't think he should have to sell his home of 40 years just to appease critics.

    Of course, this isn't the same thing as Robert Tilton et al who are so obviously going over the top.
     
    #10 Johnv, Jun 23, 2004
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    Sounds like sour grapes to me.
     
    #11 LadyEagle, Jun 23, 2004
  12. Jamal5000

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    I understand your exception-to-the-rule example, Johnv. That pastor does not sound like he lives an excessive life.

    Voluntarily perpetuating the lifestyle would look suspicious.

    My pastor, for example, drove a cadillac for a few years. Then, he traded it in for a used SUV for 1/3 of the cost b/c he didn't need "that big expensive car". He couldn't preach against the danger of materialism when he had more car than he needed.

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    #12 Jamal5000, Jun 23, 2004
  13. Marcia

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    The main problem with Copeland is not that he has 2 jets and an expensive. Looking at his excessively wealthy lifestyle (which I do think is unnecessary and not appropriate) can detract us from his very unbiblical beliefs, which is the more serious problem.
     
    #13 Marcia, Jun 23, 2004
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    A workman is worthy of his wages. And a pastor deserves double honor.

    But millions to vaunt and flaunt? Sickening.
     
    #14 Dr. Bob, Jun 24, 2004
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    Yet from all this, what is important to realise is that although the Prosperity Gospel might be flooding some churches like an open sewer, we can do something about it by simply refering people back to the Bible. When people wheel out the verses about the Full Storehouse in Malachi and the usual others, we can get them to have a look at the context and to ask them what the Bible really is saying on the Subject. Think about it, what does the Bible really say about those that chase after riches of money and material goods, Does it not say that it is better to sell those things and give to the poor and be Spiritually Rich in heaven. Quite the contrast to the lies of the Properity Gospel movement. [​IMG]
     
    #15 Ben W, Jun 29, 2004
  16. Marcia

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    Two good articles on this topic:

    Prosperity Gospel, Is It Biblical?
    http://craom.net/ProsperityGospel.htm

    Does God Promise Health and Wealth?
    http://craom.net/healthandwealth.htm

     
    #16 Marcia, Jun 29, 2004
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