Featured Cops Shoot Suicidal Teen 16 Times

"Like six officers."

"Like sixteen shots."

Was it six officers, or was it like six officers? Was it sixteen shots, or was it like sixteen shots?

Ever heard of someone emotionally distraught not getting their facts straight?

And as for the BB gun - you're called to an incident, and the report is that there's a gun involved. The suspect makes a threatening move. Do you wait for another policeman or a bystander to get shot, and possibly killed, before you react?

There are a LOT of details missing from this story. But y'all feel free to pass judgment before you have all the facts.

 

People NEED to ask questions. It would be silly not to be sure the services we have in place are in order and not a threat to the well-being of our families and others. Nobody should have to think twice about calling for needed help. We should be able to trust that help. Many people do not right now, and there strongly appears to be just cause for that. It needs addressed and not just for regular citizens. The safety of officers is at risk too when the people they serve do not trust them. Fear brings hate, and scared people do scary things.

 

Aunt Who Witnessed Fatal Police Shooting in Kansas Recounts What Led to Death of Mentally Ill Teen [LINK]

 

So initially it was 16 rounds, and now it's 24?

Initially it was six policemen; now she says it was 14?

BTW: She had no idea why police were called. When she learned of the situation, police were already on scene. She and her husband charged into the scene screaming and yelling. Put yourself in the policemen's shoes: What would you make of this situation?

WE have no idea why police were called. We need to hear the police side of the report. We need to know why the police were called there in the first place. We do NOT need to be afraid of the police in this situation until we know these things. Somewhere in the middle of this aunt's report and what the police tell us will be the real story.

Some of y'all need to consider what you're paying policemen to do for you. I'm NOT advocating for the police side of the story; I'll be the first to condemn their actions if the reports don't back up the use of deadly force. But I refuse to condemn anyone -- including the young man -- until I have enough information to actually make an informed judgment.

 

I can't speak for that particular police department, nor for the state police certification training; but I can honestly say, when I went through the military training on this subject, the concept drilled into us was "aim center mass with the intent to disable rather than kill." You CAN aim center mass without making a "kill shot." So I have to disagree with you about the "shoot to kill" statement.

And the reason that they don't get trained to aim for arms or legs is because, in the heat of the moment, those are particularly hard targets to hit (because they have a tendency to move in unexpected ways).

Excellent questions.

 

Agreed

None of the bleeding-heart liberals would do anything different if faced with a situation that could bring harm to them.

Which is why I say .... the cops got the guns. Learn to say. "Yes sir; no sir; and whatever you say p, sir!" I am going to do everything thing they ask or order me to do, because I do not want to provoke a person with a gun.

Great point Anne....I agree!

 

Not only that but the cops cannot allow the uncle to approach the suspect because they don't know what he is intending to do. Sure, he says he's going to help by tackling him but so many other things could happen to complicate the situation.

 

EXCELLENT points.

Sure would like to know why the cops were called....

 

Well if he was in fact a suicidal teen then do you think the kid really cared about saying "no sir, yes sir" to the cops. Sounds like he got we wanted, which kind of stinks doesn't it.

 

Don't know why it matters. 1 or 16.

Dead is dead.

 

The implication so far is excessive force. The number of shots matter, because the woman's reported number of shots has already changed from 16 to 24.

Based on that, the reality may be that only 2 shots were fired. We just don't know.

It matters because people picked up on the emotionally distraught statements and automatically condemned the police.

It matters because, if it turns out it was unjustifiable, it also speaks to not only was it unjustifiable, but 16 (much less 24) indicates the officers involved--maybe the entire police force for that district--need re-training on use of force.

 

It's a convenient way to sensationalize the shooting. Consider this: If there are 8 cops involved, for whatever reason, if each fires twice as they were likely trained to do, that's 16 times. They might have a point if only one or two officers were involved.

 

Wow thanks Don.

I mean thanks for overlooking all the threads and posts by others who toss allegations around as facts with no evidence to back them up to pick me out of the crowd.

At least I had the presence of mind to look for more "details".

 

OK, so it's an "honest" question. It's still as really stupid question.

So why don't you do some research and get back to us with your sources?

Otherwise we just have to consider it a really stupid rhetorical question.

 

Center mass and stay alive. Go home to your family.