I don't have time now in this first post to say a lot about this subject. But I imagine this thread will gradually become of interest to members of the BB.I'll add my comments along the way. Some say election in the Bible is only corporate. I say it is corporate and individual.Ephesians 1 is brought in by some to seemingly support their case that election is only corporate.I will acknowledge that it is primarily given a corporate drift. However, does that mean that individual election is automatically excluded?Of course not. A group is made up of individuals. God elects on a personal basis, not in a generalized lump of humanity.One can't logically separate the group from the individual.You can't have one (group) without the other (individual). There are many passages which speak of individuals and their election. I'll start off with 2 Peter 1:10:"Therefore, my brothers and sisters, make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble" (TNIV) Now the group didn't collectively ascertain whether or not they were in the faith -- to make sure they were indeed called and elected. They were to do this on an individual basis.