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POB Parsing Guide Response

POB,

Good to hear that you are "staying by the stuff" academically. I am at school and not at home where all of my books are. But I will be glad to get you a couple of titles when I get in this afternoon (if my old mind can remember?).

First, are you doing Greek or Hebrew?

Second, do you want to do "parsing" and "declining" or just "parsing" in the technical sense? i.e., are you doing verbs only or verbs and nouns?

Let us know and we will recommend some titles.

sdg!:thumbs:

rd

 

POB Parsing and Declining Helps

POB,

I am sorry that I did not get back to you sooner. But here is a list of Greek help tools. I might add that they are good for the self-taught, the beginner, novice, or Greek reader.

I would start with a good intro "baby Greek" grammar. There are many out there. The one I used was An Introductory Grammar of NT Greek by Paul Kaufman. ISBN #0-88021-060-5. It is old by today's standards but still a good one. You can also use Davis' Grammar who had an affiliation with A. T. Robertson I believe(?).

A second help is just a good Interlinear like Interlinear Greek-English New Testament w/KJV. It has a Gk/Eng/ Lexicon and a NT synonyms list. ISBN # 0-8010-0700-3. These are good to use but can become a crutch if the new student is not careful.

Thirdly, you might want to check out Sakae(sp?) Kubo's A Reader's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament. It is laid out with the words that the new student or casual reader may not see and identify so easily. It is laid our verse by verse and book by book. That is what makes it easy to use but it is probably more of a tool for the person who has a little bit of expertise. ISBN # is 0-310-26920-2

Fourth, and this may be the one that will help you as much as the Interlinear. It is Baker's Greek New Testament Series; Analytical Greek New Testament w/the Complete UBS Greek Text w/an Interlinear. It has every word, even the particles, declined and conjugated and parsed with its own key system. Now, you must know a little about the basics, like, what a nominative case is and does; that sort of thing. And it may be the best answer for your initial question. ISBN # is 0-8010-3496-5.

If I had to recommend one to you it would be the last one above. Yet again, it requires some basic Greek skills in order to use it.

I hope this helps!

sdg!:thumbs:

rd

 

POB Follow Up

POB,

FTR, (for the record). We parse verbs and decline nouns; if I remember anything about my Greek at all.:laugh:

FYI!:thumbs:

sdg!

rd

 

POB Reply

POB,

I got my research talents the old fashioned way; I earned them, in all of the seminary and grad school years and degrees that I have seen and to which I have been exposed.

And as far as I am concerned one must follow the "Three Rs" to learn to do that type of work:

1. Research;

2. Research;

3. Research!!

Then you must WRITE, WRITE, AND THEN WRITE some more.

Researching and then writing out what you have found via your research helps to concretize your thoughts. Then you can put them down on paper to see if you and others can follow the logic and flow of your thoughts.

And it demands: WORK, WORK, AND THEN SOME MORE WORK to be proficient at it.

Keep up the good work! Work at the the good work!

Finally, I really don't know of a work that teaches one how to do research per se. Then again, "I don't know what I don't know!":laugh:

Some of my academic colleagues may know of something?!

sdg!

rd

 

POB #2 Response

POB,

That is why grad school and dissertation writing is so crucial. Most of us, who consider ourselves academics (?), keep trying to make a case "pro" strong, and rigorous, and academically accredited programs.

There IS NO SUBSTITUTION for a grad school class where one has spent 30-40 hrs in some dusty library or on line, looking up info, sifting through it, compiling it, outlining it, trying to run down a source that someone told you might work for your topic or subject, labor to get the logic of thought and flow of argument clear, only to get the paper back and some prof has "bled all over it!!!!!!!" You expected a "A-" maybe you thought. But you got a "C+" and your prof says: "I gave you the 'C' out of grace or the goodness of my heart so you 'would not feel faint.'"

As you can tell, I am a SLOW LEARNER, but it did not take me long to find out how to do the work. And somewhere in the mix I learned how, and what, and where to please the prof. But also along the way, I also found out how to do the work as well.

It also is quite a motivator if one has $400.00 per semester hour laid out. And you know that in grad school you only get two "C's" and you must have a 3.0 GPA or higher, and that every "C" made must be retaken. Those are fine motivators for doing your best. I will tell you; you do not have to get back many "C+" grad papers to get you motivated and "learned" what to do and how to do it.

That is one of the reasons all of us you mentioned above argue so hard and so often for rigorous education. If there is anything in this world that should be done as "unto the Lord" it is the minister's education!!!

That it my "rant" or "testimony" whichever you want to call it.

sdg!:thumbs:

rd

 

UZ ThD Response

Bill,

I am glad to see you on the BB again. I was trying to follow one of your discussions on the http://www.degreediscussion.com bulletin board. I am much too lazy to read the entire post. But you alluded to the fact that something has happened to the seminary where you were teaching, and Wayne House, and such.

We may need to start another post for this, and I invite one of the moderators to take it somewhere else if needs be.

Bill, if you could help a confused friend out here I would greatly appreciate it? What exactly happened up there in the great northwest?

Also, that you for the kind "amen" you gave me above.

sdg!:thumbs:

rd

 

UZ ThD Reponse

Bill,

You ought to get hooked up with Liberty's on line program. I am signed up with them and they have been wearing me out. Wayne Patton wanted me to teach 3 sections of Church History this Fall on the Bachelor's level. They also have courses on the Master's level. But that is done through the grad division. Their terms come around every eight weeks. They pay $700.00 per semester hour and use Blackboard. You might have to learn the delivery format but that would be no swear for you. You have an interest in teaching and DE. It would really be worth your while. PM me and I will give you the info if you want it. It is custom made for someone like you and me who got in the game late.

Keep in touch!

sdg!:thumbs:

rd

 

Paid Response

Hey Paid,

I just ordered Wesley J. Perschbacher on your recommendation. It had better be good!!!:laugh:

sdg!

rd:thumbs: