Coulter at it again

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  1. Magnetic Poles

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    I am always amazed that such a hatemonger as Ann Coulter gets the attention and admiration of righties. She is not conservative...she is just pure evil.

    CLICK HERE to see the video. Plus, see Mitt's comments right below the FrankANNStein video.
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    Coulter: I Would Talk About Edwards But “You Have To Go Into Rehab If You Use The Word ‘Faggot’”

    Speaking today at the Conservative Political Action Conference, right-wing pundit Ann Coulter said: “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards.” Audience members said “ohhh” and then cheered.
     
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    If I am wrong letme know but havent I seen some hate speech out of you toward the President?


    The comment by Ann is weird and unnecessary.
     
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    It's a mystery to me too. I've voted mostly Republican for the last 24 years (voted for G.W. Bush three times, once as governor and twice as President) but the support of Coulter by the right wing just shows how much people on the extreme right revel in the politics of contempt -- the same thing that they (rightly) condemn the extreme left wingers of doing.
     
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    Topic is the divisive Ann Coulter


    tim tim you have not been around here that long...mag poles ..he has a track record ..you don't know him and he does not even come close to hate speech ...you are frustrated and lashing out because the bush/rove culture that ann coulter embraces and fronts is being exposed for what they are...filled with the spirit of anti-christ attributes of deception and division to fill their money coffers from like minded people.

    now the topic is Ann not those who are reporting it...can we actually stay
    on topic.


    I agree she is weird but she seemed to be embraced at the biggest right wing function of the year as a hero...sad.

    Why would they even allow Ann to speak and applauded which is also wierd...is it desperation is it frustration of the bully mentality ...good I say
    let them be exposed for what they are....naziesqued...fascists...extreme..dividers..warmongers..fearmongers..
    and hatemongers.

    Ann is a millionaire many times over because of her tactic of division and tapping into those who believe her tripe...they keep her going and buy her books and smirk at her attire she is the one that very well may be

    GODLESS

    She lies about her age ..she lies about her voting.....she is not funny...her father was a professional union buster....she learned how to divide and be a provocateur.

    Again attributes of the one cast down out of heaven like a lighting bolt..into self...money...destruction of others.

    She needs repentance...she needs professional help.
     
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    I am not the subject, and yes, you are wrong. I have never said anything even close to hate speech about President Bush. I have made it clear, I think he is unfit for his office, but never hate speech. In fact, I explicitly have said I don't hate the man. So you are very wrong.

    So with that, forget trying to turn tables, and stick to the topic. Coulter is so far out there, I can hardly believe anyone can justify her polemics and ad hominem attacks. She is a disgrace, not only to conservatism, but to humanity. There is no compassion in her vile words.
     
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    MP in the op you stated: "I am always amazed..." that makes you part of the topic.


    Then you accuse another of hate speach. Again you are part of the topic. I wonder if Ann had said this would it have been considered hate speech:





    Would these quailfy as hate speech ?

    Threads get shut down often on this board. Some tough rehtoric gets used on both sides of the fence, both on this board and in American politics. If you want to take a moment to bash ann then its your right. Pointing out the rehtoric of other people as evil and hateful seems rather hypocriticle. I think we all could learn to tame the tongue on occasion.

    As far as Ann's words go they seem to be a rather unintelligent attempt at sarcasm.
     
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    No, you are showing you do not understand at all. I am entitled to post my opinion about something. That is what everyone does here. It in no way inserts me into the topic.

    Where have I said anything that even remotely construes hate speech. Certainly not in the ones you cited. These are opinion, and are certainly supportable, even if you disagree. It is a far cry from standing up and making a speech calling someone "faggot". So again, if you can't stay on topic, start your own thread if you like.
     
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    It is clearly a hate crime to call someone a sodomite. A guy in Indianapolis got fired just for saying that he hated Ben Gay.

    Gays, lesbians, and transgendered persons have even more money than the Mormons and so they command a great deal of respect. The Mormons were so rich that no one has ever said anything about their history of total discrimination against African-Americans.
     
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    Hate speech? There is no such thing. This is a free country with freedom of speech. Coulter, and the rest, can say what they like.

    Personally I am not a fan of Coulter but I am a fan of freedom of speech. Which ideas like hate speech war against.
     
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    Martin, I absolutely agree with freedom of speech, but it does have limits. To call Edwards "faggot" in a public speech is slander. She can defend that by proving the veracity of the statement, but I have seen no evidence that John Edwards is a homosexual.

    Back to my main point, Coulter is a hateful and mean person. I STILL am amazed that anyone takes any of her diatribes seriously.
     
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    Faggot is certainly no worse than some of the things liberals and Congressional democrats have called President Bush.

    Selective outrage may be a good term.
     
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    Perhaps, but how about some examples? If someone called Bush a "faggot", I would be just as outraged.

    SO, I guess even if it were true, does that make it right.

    Looks like I hit a neocon nerve.
     
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    That sounds like an interesting story, cmg, that I would like to read. Do you have a link to it?
     
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    ==No, that's not slander. It is, at worst, playground behavior. That is what all these people remind me of. Children on the playground getting into fights because someone said something about someone's mama. These sorry over grown, over paid children need to grow and grow some thicker skin. If Edwards, and his camp, is really that bothered by what someone like Coulter thinks/says of him then he needs to get out of politics. He is in the wrong profession.


    ==Well there was the Kerry/Edwards ticket. I had the privledge, in September of '04, of seeing political comedian Mark Russell perform in person. He said that Kerry/Edwards looked like the top of a gay wedding cake! :laugh: His act, of course, hit both Kerry/Edwards and Bush/Cheney. If you ever get a chance to see him it is worth the ticket price. I assure you!

    Of course Edwards is not "gay". That is all the more reason why he should not care what someone like Coulter thinks.

    ==So are many of the people on the left. It is called politics. If Edwards can't take the heat than maybe he should get out of the kitchen. That, btw, goes for everyone.

    ==Well don't worry I don't. I would not spend any of my hard earned money on her trash.

    Opps, was that slander? :laugh:
     
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    Ann Coulter to share the platfrom with Dr. Richard Land

    Will Dr. Land renounce her??? at least quitely admonish her in private.


    Christians are feeling more "alien" to American culture, but a group of Christian "culture war" veterans are planning to reclaim America for what is was founded on.
    The Reclaiming America for Christ conference heads for Fort Lauderdale, Fla., in March and replacing key speaker Dr. D. James Kennedy of Coral Ridge Ministries is newly added Dr. Richard Land, who heads the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission.
    Kennedy, 76, remains hospitalized after suffering a heart attack that led to cardiac arrest late December. His condition is improving, according to Coral Ridge's executive vice president, Brian E. Fisher.
    The ministry announced over the weekend that Land will take the place of Kennedy as the prominent evangelical leader recuperates in the hospital.
    "Dr. Land is a powerful and outspoken voice in America on behalf of biblical standards in public life,” said Dr. Gary Cass, executive director of the Center for Reclaiming America for Christ. “We very much look forward to hearing from him when he speaks at our gathering.”
    "Why reclaiming America?" Kennedy had asked at a previous Reclaiming America conference.
    "This nation started out as a Christian nation and was the work of Christ in the beginning, and therefore, we have every right to reclaim it," said Kennedy.
    Although America was established with the Christian faith, there are people today who seem to think that Christians just arrived from Mars, Kennedy had said, "that we're some sort of aliens that have come here to obtrude ourselves into their lovely secular culture."
    But the origins of America say it all.
    "America simply began as a church relocation project," Kennedy told conference participants. Leaving the persecution in England, Pilgrims arrived in America to establish "a new home for their church."
    "Yes, the church had a great deal to do with the founding of America and they said that they came here for the glory of God and the establishment of the Christian faith."
    Thus given the Christian founding of America, the annual conference calls Christians to simply "reclaim" America for Christ, as Kennedy had noted.
    U.S. Senate Chaplain Barry Black recently withdrew his engagement to speak at the conference, saying that his "non-partisan role as chaplain conflicts with the conference agenda."
    Speakers scheduled to speak include best-selling author Ann Coulter; Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council; Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life; Dr. Frank Wright, President of the National Religious Broadcasters; and Walid Phares, author of Future Jihad.

    http://www.christianpost.com/articl...s_Geared_Up_to_Reclaim_America_for_Christ.htm


    http://www.abpnews.com/1666.article

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    WASHINGTON (ABP) -- United States Senate Chaplain Barry Black has canceled a scheduled appearance at a conference featuring prominent Religious Right activists -- and will be replaced by the Southern Baptist Convention's ethics guru.

    http://www.spcm.org/Journal/spip.php?article6327

    Apparently it will be held in a church...again will Dr. Land admonish Ann Coulter??


    Chaplain Black will be replaced at the Reclaiming America for Christ Conference by Dr. Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberties Center. The conference will also feature conservative speakers such as author Ann Coulter, Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum, and Family Research Council president Tony Perkins.
     
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    add on This gracious Jersey girl answers Ann Coulter the real opportunist


    added: remember the attack on the 9/11 widows as well ..come on their is a track record here and Dr. Land needs to renounce her admonish her.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlYSu1lmiTo&watch_response
     
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    I regret purchasing and reading one of Ann Coulter's books a few years ago.
     
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    ==Why should Land do such a thing? He is not her pastor, in fact, I don't even know if she is Southern Baptist. It is not his place to "renounce" her. I suspect he is there to talk about a certain topic. He is not being asked, and paid, to give his opinion of the various speakers.

    Her statement about Edwards, or any other political person, is no big deal. Again if people can't take the heat then they need to get out of the kitchen and stop all the whining.

    I am troubled by the need of some in this country, on both the left and the right, to silence people they either don't like and/or don't agree with. There is a little thing called freedom of speech you know. And while there are certainly limits to that freedom (ie..threats, etc) we can't deny that freedom to someone simply because his/her speech is unpopular or negative in it's tone. Ann Coulter has just as much right to spew her venom as Al Franken, Cindy Sheehan, or Jesse Jackson does. If you don't like her views/statements don't buy her books, don't watch/listen to her on talk shows, and just generally ignore her. If her books stop selling she will go away. However there is no need to have her silenced or pushed out of the public eye by various leaders renouncing her. That sets a very dangerous standard.

    ps...

    As for her "attacks" on the 9/11 widows, again, so what? Why should these women care what someone like Coulter thinks/says of them? I can't think of any reason they should. In fact, watching the video, I think her response to Coulter was very good and sound. If those women were not prepared for harsh reactions from various political people then they should have kept silent. If any person is going to go public, put themselves in the public spotlight, and put themselves in the midst of a political story they must be able/willing to accept the heat that comes with that. If they are not, or cannot, then they need to stay out of the public eye.
     
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    Why should he give "examples", you'll just rationalize them away. Free speech is just that, it's not what you don't want to hear.

    I'll put in for you this way: If Ann Coutler says it, doesn't matter if it's true or false. If Keith Olbermann says it, it still doesn't matter.

    Hypocrisy needs consistency.

    Actually, looks like Ann Coulter presssed all the right buttons again.
     
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