Counseling

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Salty, Jun 22, 2011.

  1. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,083
    Likes Received:
    218
    If a "married" hom0sexual couple came to you (or your pastor) for counseling, would you accept, if so what path would you take?
     
  2. DiamondLady

    DiamondLady
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2011
    Messages:
    808
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is an "it depends" kind of question. It would depend on what they want counseling for. If they need spiritual counseling; absolutely I would accept. After that it would be an "I doubt it" answer.:D
     
  3. SBCPreacher

    SBCPreacher
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    2,764
    Likes Received:
    0
    I kind of agree. But if we did meet, they'd hear that hom0s...ty is sin.
     
  4. John of Japan

    John of Japan
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    12,208
    Likes Received:
    192
    I would agree to one session, after which I would decided on whether or not to continue. As always, the first thing I would deal with is the matter of salvation. Many times simply leading the person to Christ will solve the other problems.
     
  5. Salty

    Salty
    Expand Collapse
    20,000 Posts Club
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    22,083
    Likes Received:
    218
    John, this is off OP - just a bit (its ok I am the op:thumbs:)

    But is HS - prevalant in Japan as in the US - and what would say the reason is?
     
  6. Jim1999

    Jim1999
    Expand Collapse
    <img src =/Jim1999.jpg>

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2002
    Messages:
    15,460
    Likes Received:
    0
    Counselling homosexuals is not a simple, "the bible is against homosexuality" thing. If that is your approach, then get out of the counselling business.

    For example, I am still working with a medical doctor who was raised on the mission field by baptist missionaries. They simply disowned her,,,,period. Her mate also has social issues that created this union. They do not flaunt their union in public. They both have received Christ as Saviour. I have been working with them for almost ten years now. The doctor can recite scripture as well as me. She also has a medical knowledge, so believe me when I say my hands are full. Only prayer can intervene, but I will not give up.

    I am sure there are many situations that evolved out of social problems rather than the act itself.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  7. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    10,458
    Likes Received:
    136
    Sorry, But I'd Say No!

    So long as they are practicing hom0@&$#^'s, I'd have to decline.

    Remember, and some of you may vehemently disagree with me, but sin has a certain element of negative spirits attached to them, and it would be wrong to sit down with that kind of spirit being present in not one, but two persons.

    I'd only consider this if they came as individuals and allowed another person to be present along side of me, or in close proximity praying.

    There is a strong sensual, sexual spirit attached to those living in hom0$@#&%ty. Knowledge of this sin and spirit would tend to make me cautious.

    Pastor Paul
     
  8. jaigner

    jaigner
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2009
    Messages:
    2,274
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh my goodness. So would you sit down with an angry person? A heterosexual deviant?

    Are you just trying to protect yourself in some sort of way? You have the Spirit of God in your life. There's nothing associated with sin that can get hold of you.

    And friend, there is a strong sensual, sexual spirit attached to more who are living in heterosexuality.

    Sin is sin. We need to realize that. We need to be out among those who are living in all kinds of filth. It's nothing short of a judgmental spirit that decides which sin is okay to hang out with and which ones we have to keep away from.
     
  9. John Toppass

    John Toppass
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,052
    Likes Received:
    7
    Matt 7. 22,23 very well could apply in this situation.

    If the counseling they were seeking was to strengthen their perverse union I would have to decline. Just as I would not counsel a drunkard so that they could handle their liquor or counsel a thief so that they would not get caught.
     
  10. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2007
    Messages:
    10,458
    Likes Received:
    136
    Is That a Fact?

    Is that a fact, or an opinion? I believe no one is immune to the seductive spirit of any form of sin. If we were immune, then 1 John 1:1-10 is not applicable to any born again child of God.

    If a person is susceptible to a certain spirit (sins) then it is wise to remain at arm length. That is my opinion.

    An alcoholic, for example, does not need to tempt the Spirit of God by working selling alcohol, working in a brewery, or working as a bartender. Even having a n ocassional drink even if they've been set free and dry for years, is not wisdom in action. Again, that is my opinion!

    Thanks for yours. I don't disagree with you, and like most disagreements, we'll only know which belief is right on when we stand before Him. I suspect; we'll both be a little surprised at what we discover when the truth of His wisdom and Word is finally revealed.

    God bless,

    Pastor Paul
     
  11. John of Japan

    John of Japan
    Expand Collapse
    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2005
    Messages:
    12,208
    Likes Received:
    192
    Since "saving face" is so important in this society, there are few who live the lifestyle openly. There are no movements or demonstrations for h. marriage or equal rights. There is still generally speaking a stigma in Japan.

    Having said that, there is currently a trend in the Japanese entertainment world (TV variety shows, mostly) of males cross-dressing. There is no condemnation of this by Japanese people. In fact, the trend was probably started by a famous male singer who appears to be a h.

    Nothing in Buddhism or Shinto forbids h., and Japan usually follows American trends after a few years, so I look for the situation to worsen in the near future.
     

Share This Page

Loading...