Creation chronology

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  1. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    <<<And God saw that it was good.
    On every day apart from the second day of creation God said that it was Good, and on the third day He saw that it was Good twice.
    What happened or didn't happen on the second day? Why Good is not mentioned.
    Monday blues?
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    It depends on where one places the division between the days of creation.

    The usual way is to end every day with God’s overview and conclusion, God saw, and it was good, and then as closing summary of the past day: “It was evening // night and it was morning // day the First Day…” etcetera.

    But regard the passage verses 1 to 5 as the heading for BOTH the WHOLE creation story and First Day, and regard “It was evening // night and it was morning // day…” and further on, as the heading for every passage covering every (following) day.

    In other words, START every day with “It was evening // night and it was morning // day…” instead of ending every day with it.

    Thus the First Day—verses 1 to 8a—contains “God saw that the LIGHT was good” in verse 4a.

    The Second Day begins in 8b and ends with God’s pronunciation that “it was good” in the end of verse 12.

    The Third Day begins in 13 and ends with God’s pronunciation that “it was good” in the end of verse 18.

    The Fourth Day begins in 19 and ends with God’s blessing in 22.

    The Fifth Day begins in 23 and ends with God’s pronunciation that “it was good” in the end of verse 25.

    The Sixth Day begins in 26 and ends with God’s conclusive pronunciation that “it was very good” in verse 31. And HERE—with the creation of MAN ONLY “the Sixth Day”, creation ended. “Thus the heavens and the earth and all the host of them were finished” in 2:1.

    2:1 though, simultaneously is an INTRODUCTION for the same creation story RECAPPED in Genesis 2 and 3.
     
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    In both the original language and in our translations the phrase "there was evening and there was morning" are preceded by the word "and".

    You can see a progression of action as God creates and fills:

    Day 1 light and darkness >> Day 4 filled with greater and lesser lights and the stars

    Day 2 waters and sky >> Day 5 waters and sky filled and swarming

    Day 3 dry land and vegetation >> Day 6 filled with living creatures and man

    It's one of the themes of the bible - God creates, God is faithful.

    Rob
     
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    It is a beautiful chiasm the first in the books of Moses and in all the rest of Scriptures.

    The parallels which you highlighted remain intact if the division is changed between the PASSAGES containing those events of the consecutive days.

    There is no MUST that the heavenly bodies must have been created on the Fourth Day, and there is no MUST that animals had to be created on the same day as Adam.

    Right from the beginning the Sixth Day received the meaning of 'Preparation Day for the Seventh Day.
    For me it is most significant that God created only man on the last day that He created.
    Exodus 16:29,8 “I give you … evening and morning … the Sixth Day”, meaning: ‘I create you on the Sixth Day’. “This day have you become the People of the LORD GOD”. Deuteronomy 27:9
     
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    not sure why the quote box does not work on first post but...

    Ex 20:11 is also a summary of Gen 1-2:3
     
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    still no quote box working ...

    true about the stars - "Two great lights" not " a zillion and two", not the animals were created on day 6 as well as man - according to the text.

    in Christ,


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    A 'creationist' who isn't a 'creationist'.

    Why would the <<zillion and two stars>> not also be created in the "six days" in which "God made heaven and earth, the sea AND ALL that in them"?

    If you talk and think Bible, you talk and think Bible; not science!

    Bible is, "God made ALL in six days" --- not ONLY <two>.

    I know you do NOT mean <<not the animals were created on day 6 as well as man - according to the text>>, but that the animals were created on day 6 and not <on day 5>. But <<according to the text>> ... and very clearly according to the correct "dividing" of the Word of God in <the text> in Genesis 1, man only was ceated on the Sixth Day and <animals> on the Fifth.

    Why do Bob Ryan object?

    Because it cannot be — ‘Inspiration’ tells him — that God finished “all that He had made very good” on the Sixth Day, and, not on the Seventh Day. … because ‘Inspiration’ tells him God did nothing, finishing and resting on the Seventh Day. That is Seventh-day Adventism. I know.
     
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    A 'creationist' who isn't a 'creationist'.

    Why would the <<zillion and two stars>> not also be created in the "six days" in which "God made heaven and earth, the sea AND ALL that in them"?

    If you talk and think Bible, you talk and think Bible; not science!

    Bible is, "God made ALL in six days" --- not ONLY <two>.

    I know you do NOT mean <<not the animals were created on day 6 as well as man - according to the text>>, but that the animals were created on day 6 and not <on day 5>. But <<according to the text>> ... and very clearly according to the correct "dividing" of the Word of God in <the text> in Genesis 1, man only was created on the Sixth Day and <animals> on the Fifth.

    Why does Bob Ryan object?

    Because it cannot be — ‘Inspiration’ tells him — that God finished “all that He had made very good” on the Sixth Day, and, not on the Seventh Day. … because ‘Inspiration’ tells him God did nothing, finishing and resting on the Seventh Day. That is Seventh-day Adventism. I know.
     

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