Cruz, Romney and the rest! A bunch of cutthroats?

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  1. righteousdude2

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    I don't know about you all, but I am so fed up with the GOP hypocrites. I doubt if I will ever vote for their ticket ever again should they continue to dump.on Trump and drive him out of the race. It seems that these "fools" think we the people don't know what is best for us. In fact they are taking it upon themselves to make sure a "worthy" conservative candidate, one that will bow and kiss the ring finger of those who helped put them in Washington.

    Now, for Cruz ... Trump needs to do a Carly on Ted. Point out his face and ask, do you really want to see that face for four years in the Oval Office? Cruz is a pure politicians! He is so slimy, and untrustworthy. I mean to tell you, that had if the serpent had a face, it would have looked something like TRUSTed Cruz...

    Am I the only one who has gotten frustrated with the GOP telling us who to vote for, or else?
     
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    Are you aware of what he says about them?
     
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    Who is a worthy conservative candidate? TRump? Yea right he has supported Harry Reid for reelection monetarily. He gave monetarily to Rahm Emmanuel you know the former Obama aid in his campaign for Chicago mayoral race. Both huge Liberal Democrats in fact as of 2011 with these men's campaign he gave also gave 1.3 Million to political support and of that 53% was to Democrats. That would $689,000 to support Democrats being elected Liberals. He also stated the Hillary would make a good President and that he is pro-choice, he changed that stance to run on the Republican ticket. I am not a part of the GOP establishment but I have done my research, my guy had to drop out not enough support but he knew what he was talking about. Cruz is truly conservative and has been attacked many times by the GOP establishment even gone against them on several compromise bills. While Cruz isn't the best choice he isn't a Liberal Democrat like Trump trying to pass himself off a conservative.
     
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    Want more

    https://edmundkeyblog.wordpress.com/2015/06/16/trump-donated-to-clinton-biden-and-other-democrats/
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    Federal Election Commission data shows that Trump donated to a multitude of Democratic candidates and affiliated organizations, including the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee: Hillary Clinton.

    Along with Clinton, Trump has donated to Joe Biden, former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle (D-SD), Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin (D-IL), Senate Democratic Conference Committee Vice Chair Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ; who was indicted on federal corruption charges in April), Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY), Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL), former Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT), former Senator Max Baucus (D-MT), former Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-NY), and Representative Charles Rangel (D-NY; who was convicted by the House Ethics Committee in 2010 for up to 11 counts of ethics violations).

    Trump also gave money to members of the Kennedy family. He donated to former Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) in 1998 and 2003, former Representative Patrick Kennedy (D-RI) in 2001, 2003, and 2005, and former Maryland House Delegate Mark Kennedy Shriver (D-MD) in 2002.

    But it doesn’t stop there! Trump also donated to John Kerry’s Senate Committee in 2000 and later, the John Kerry For President committee in 2003.

    In addition, considering all the aforementioned donations, it isn’t surprising that Trump also donated to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

    To be fair, Donald Trump has donated largely to both Republicans and Democrats, but the fact that he even donated to so many Democrats shows that he isn’t running based on fundamental policy positions, but rather for himself. Perhaps it’s to make more money or to feed his narcissism (or even both), but whatever it is, it only goes to show that nothing matters but the Trump brand.

    And he calls himself a conservative Republican? He is Democrat through and through why isn't he challenging Hillary as a Democrat? Because the Democratic establishment found a way to have a Democrat as President either way, Hillary gets to run and they have their Trump card.
     
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    This is shameful. I hadn't planned to vote for Trump. But as an evangelical Christian, I also would not want to be associated with what the establishment of the GOP is attempting to do.

    THEY created Trumpenstein.
    They fed him.
    They egged him on with the birther stuff.
    They didn't say much when he was trashing everyone.

    It's only been since they figured that one of their glory boys wasn't gonna get the nomination that they've suddenly become stop Trump at all costs.

    I say let them destroy the party.

    Generally stuff has to die in order to start to grow. The GOP, at this point, looks like it needs to die.

    No need for any of this. I think if he stands firm and the establishment keeps trying to bring about a brokered convention, it'll take care of itself.

    This is when you start looking at Senate and House seats. if they don't want to listen to their constituencies, vote em out of office and start anew.


    How many years has it taken you to get frustrated?
    They put up John McCain because it was his turn.:rolleyes:
    They put up the Mormon because he was such a "good businessman".:rolleyes:

    Now they don't want the businessman, Trump and are pushing an "anybody but Trump" campaign.

    This is what happens when you give the devil a toe hold. HE forces his entire body in and takes over and tries to control everything.
     
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    Stage 2: Denial. http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/7-stages-of-trump-recovery.98745/
     
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    Cruz is the best of the field, the most conservative that has run for president since I could vote. I'm not even sure how to process the fact that a pastor is advocating for just insulting someone that they disagree with. That fact alone is a sad commentary on the day and age we live in.
     
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    Why, Blessed, you only need to read what RD2 writes to see that he doesn't know what he's talking about and can only insult. Hey, kinda like Trump!

    He says, "the GOP wants to take it upon themselves to make sure a worthy conservative candidate, one that will bow and kiss the ring finger of those who helped put them in Washington (sic)." and then he brings up Ted Cruz. Anybody with a pulse knows that Cruz is not the pick of the DC GOP and he is not beholden to the GOP hierarchy.
     
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    . Sounds like sheeples following Trump to the democratic agenda while saying it is conservative ways, sheep who don't do anything but follow the crowd over the hill.
     
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    More like a single issue agenda with RD2--kick the immigrants out of the country.
     
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    It doesn't matter that Trump is pro-choice oh wait he changed his view because he decided to run as a conservative. He also believes that gays should have benefits for a civil union, oh wait he flip flopped on that too. Well maybe Single payer insurance like Obama care he supported that too no wait he flip flopped on that one too. Okay if he's flip flopped on those issue just to run on the republican ticket how can we believe what he says on anything?
     
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    I'm tired of hypocrisy in both major parties. I'm also tired of Donald Trump's hypocrisy. But our fatigue shouldn't force us to make incredibly bad choices for our nation.

    Well for some Republicans, that might be the motivation, but I suspect that for most, they are terrified of having a candidate that is not conservative at all, but rather someone who is a fascist and a demagogue. He is NOT conservative because he wants to overturn the protections of the constitution including freedom of speech and religious liberty. More than simple concern for the nation, they also realize that allowing Trump to receive the nomination will gut the Republican Party. I, and many other voters who often side with Republican leadership, will absolutely desert the Party.

    Let me be blunt - Trump supporters DON'T know what is best for the country and they need to come to terms with it eventually. Until they do, they need to be blocked. Moreover, they really aren't a majority in the Republican Party. The Republican Party has not given us any outstanding candidates this election cycle, but I think the other candidates are getting most of the numbers they are because people are actually voting against Trump, not for the candidates. If Trump is nominated, don't expect those otherwise Republican voters to vote for him. Careful polling has shown that they are, by-and-large, anti-Trump.

    Speaking for myself, I will endure the shame of voting for Clinton and have another four years of mediocrity and corruption in order to oppose the abandoning of the American ideal in Trump.

    No, not at all. But I am not going to give the Executive Branch to a fascist just to make a point to a Party that is about to self-destruct. The Republicans may not be around for the next election cycle - like the Whigs - and we'll have another set of issues to deal with.

    If the Republican leadership can't sort things out quickly, they're done.
     
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    The way I see it the GOP establishment has a few options:
    1. Death by Democrats- they nominate Trump and the Democrats manage to stick the the tyranny lable on the entire GOP thus destroying the party.
    2. Death by Trump- where somehow Trump wins the election and becomes the tyrant he is running to be. The GOP will never be able to run again without being considered Tyrants.
    3. Rebirth with Cruz. Yes Cruz will go in there and clean house in Washington and the establishment will be out their backsides but the party will be remade in a much stronger way.
    So no matter what the establishment is done after this election. The only choice is do they want to destroy their party in the process or have it remade stronger then ever?
    I for one would rather see it remade, and I'd Trump is the nominee I will be writing in a candidate and be forever done with the GOP at the National level.

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    Sister, I always enjoy your comments as they are mostly well thought out and demonstrate wisdom! HOWEVER, this is one time I will have to totally ask just what flavor kool aid you were drinking when you jumped to this extreme conclusion? It seems a little like Chicken Little, "the sjy is falling, the sky is falling!" Roflmao
     
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    I think that you are giving the man from Texas way toooooo much credit! He is conniving, a slick Willy type, and not what you think he is! Like Eve and the serpent, I think you have been conned into believing that the fruit hanging from the Cruz tree is life giving, and it may not hurt for you to rethink your thought process before you knight the man as the savior of America! He continues to use innuendos and half truths to siphon off votes from the competition. Like with Carson in Iowa, he used the same means on Saturdays vote, stating that it would be wise for those voting for Rubio and Kasich to vote instead for him because a vote for those two would be wasted, as he insinuated, they were dropping out f the race!

    He is a liar. And we know who dwells in sin of lies? The father of lies himself, the devil! Does that make Cruz the devil? Not necessarily so, just that he is apparently influenced by the spirit of deception, and that is dangerous for all and not a gift that will give rebirth to Washington and clean house! He is, IMHO, more of the same, politics as usual!
     
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    So let's see then , who dwells in the lies of Trump? Cruz has in the past and even now bucked the Republican leadership that is why they backed Rubio
     
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    Trump states he is a "Presbyterian" but has also been linked to the "Reformed Church of America" or something like that. Let's look at an interview with Trump on the issue,
    "Frank Luntz asked Donald Trump on Saturday, “Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?” The question elicited some laughter from the audience, though the Republican candidate seemed to take the matter seriously.
    “I’m not sure I have,” Trump said. “I just go on and try to do a better job from there. I don’t think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think, I just try and make it right. I don’t bring God into that picture. I don’t.”
    He quickly added in garbled syntax, “We I take, when we go, and church and when I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that’s a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, OK? But, you know, to me that’s important, I do that, but in terms of officially, I could say, ‘Absolutely!’ and everybody, I don’t think in terms of that. I think in terms of, let’s go on and let’s make it right.”"

    Cruz is Southern Baptist and aligns with the PRO-Life movement, he is against gay marriage and would be a proponent of prayer and seeking God's leadership.

    So pray about who God would have you support if you haven't voted in a primary yet!
     
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    Actually I'm looking at his past actions not what he says. And I said nothing about saving America, I was talking about the GOP establishment. Now if we want to talk about lies and innuendo look no further then Trump.
    Do I think Cruz is perfect? No. Do I think he is the best person to ever run for office? No. Do I think he will make the best president ever? No. Do I think he is the best conservative I have ever been able to vote for? Yes and that says more about the GOP then it does Cruz in my opinion. Now how would you answer the same question about Trump?

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