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ONLY Adam/EVe /Jesus EVER had true Free will, as they were created in sinless stae, Jesus is God in the flesh, ALL others biorn into Adam as sinners!

 

We inherited a sin nature from Adam, jesus was/is God in sinless human flesh, he was NOT exactly same as us!

he failed to sin because god cannot sin, but he was tempted in His humanity, but NEVER would have sinned, as Deity cannot do that!

 

Pitchback

Well what the Bible says concerning this topic seems to indeed go over one of our heads.

Strawman argument, I did not say Adam's sin was imputed to us, and specifically said we are not guilty of Adam's sin. This verse is consistent with my view, and please do not change the subject, you deny that the many were made, past tense, sinners. That is my view.

I see lots of effort to evade the topic. If a person is condemned already, can he or she not be further condemned by sinning, by doing what they know is wrong, by treating others differently than they want to be treated? Of course.

I have addressed each and every one of these so called problems several times before. You just recycle the same argument which denies that the many were made sinners.

We have two passages concerning the sins of the Father. One, God "visits" the sins of the Father on subsequent generations. This does not mean God punishes the subsequent generations for the sins of the Father, it means the Father's sins have consequences that affect others. Adam's sin had the consequence of being separated from God, and thus all his descendents, the many, were made sinners. This is rather basic, Winman.

 

Very well said Van!

I would also note that children/descendants often suffer as a consequence of the sins of the father or mother, not in a spiritual sense but strictly in a secular sense. How many children suffer because the "father" or "mother" is missing?

 

Amen and spot on!!