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Curious/Pro Life or Not

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by steaver, Feb 4, 2008.

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Pro-Life?

  1. Yes

    56 vote(s)
    91.8%

  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    8.2%
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  1. KenH

    KenH Well-Known Member

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    Having a different view of what government policy should be from yours does not make such a person a tare.
     
    #21 KenH, Feb 6, 2008
  2. webdog

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    Has nothing to do with gov't, but the sanctity of life, mankind made in the image of God. You are the one who brought gov't into the eqation.

    I stand by what I said. If you claim to be a christian, and are pro choice, I have to seriously consider you to be a "tare". (by "you" I mean plural, not KenH)
     
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  3. KenH

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    I disagree. A Christian's political viewpoint can call for the government to stay out of this issue without one being a tare. Now if a Christian thinks that abortion for simply birth control reasons is okay then I would go along with you.

    Our walk with God is not contingent upon our view of the reach of government into our lives.
     
    #23 KenH, Feb 6, 2008
  4. webdog

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    Protecting the sanctity of life has nothing to do with gov't. If one believes the right to choose between life and murder is OK, I consider that person a tare. How can any child of God be for the slaughter of our unborn? Sickening.
     
    #24 webdog, Feb 6, 2008
  5. drwthohh

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    You have to remember that under our constitution, we are the government. By voting for certain candidates, we are exercising God-given power over what the laws in this land will be.

    What good are laws if they don't protect the lives of the most defenseless and innocent of our people?

    Remember that we will be called to give an account for what God has given us authority over (parable of the talents). Since that is the case, I believe we should seek out God's heart on important issues such as this.
     
    #25 drwthohh, Feb 6, 2008
  6. Dan Todd

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    Pro-Life!!!!
     
    #26 Dan Todd, Feb 6, 2008
  7. steaver

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    But to break the issue down into what constitutes a "child" in the womb is to place yourself in the judgment seat of God. God's word is clear that a woman who has concieved is "with child". As Christians we must accept God's word on the matter and comply to be "right".

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
    #27 steaver, Feb 7, 2008
  8. steaver

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    Then you would also support the government making killing your child up to age 17 legal if you like?

    You see these innocent children in the wombs NEED government to stop their slaughter. They need government reaching into their lives!

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
    #28 steaver, Feb 7, 2008
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    No, you got it backwards. A woman "with child" has at some point conceived. What you assert as Biblical truth is the steaver spin cycle.
     
    #29 Magnetic Poles, Feb 7, 2008
  10. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    Ok, we have 44 voters.

    This is a Christian board.

    Christians have ample access to the Word of God that they may seek His counsel.

    Christians have the Holy Spirit indwellment to guide them into all truths.

    4 voters have voted no and 40 have voted yes.

    Now if I am one of these 4 I must ask myself if I have really sought out the truth from God's Word or am I really relying upon my own "feelings". I have 40 fellow brothers and sisters voting against what I believe, so am I believing correctly?

    40 against 4. 90% against my view and these are Christians who have the same Word of God I do and the same Holy Spirit to guide them. Yet I find myself far outside the consensus of my own brothers and sisters in Christ.

    Should I reconsider what I think is truth?

    Ten years ago I was an ignorant Christian. I had an appathetic attitude towards issues such as abortion, gays, drunks, fornicators, etc. To each their own was my moto. But I never studied God's Word and had no idea He was very clear that there was a right and wrong on these things.

    I was content to believe the lies such as "the bible is silent on the abortion issue" you hear from the ignorant of God's Word.

    You could say I was a social liberal. But then God called me into study of His Word, not about abortion, but at that time it was on salvation. Through study however I came to the truth that my appathy and social liberalism was way out of line with God's Word. I repented and ever since I rely upon God's Word to shape my views and actions.

    40 to 4. If I was one of these 4, I would surely pause if I cared at all about God's Word and examine myself to see if my thoughts are lining up with God's thoughts.

    I would highly doubt that 4 of God's children are right here out of a pool of 44 Christian voters. It appears there to be a few black sheep in the flock.

    I urge you to repent and get busy supporting the team!

    God Bless! :jesus:
     
    #30 steaver, Feb 7, 2008
  11. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    Huh?

    Ok,I will say it your way.......A woman with child has concieved.

    Does that make it better for you?

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
    #31 steaver, Feb 7, 2008
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    If Roe vs. Wade is overturned by the SC, then the issue returns to the states where the issue used to be. It doesn't mean that abortions will be illegal.

    While I am passionately pro-life on a personal basis and support our local pregnancy center, I don't see abortions in this country being illegal anytime soon.
     
    #32 FriendofSpurgeon, Feb 7, 2008
  13. Magnetic Poles

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    You can't be missing it that badly. Think about it. If you were to say, "A person who drinks is drunk", is far different (and wrong) than saying, "A person who is drunk, drinks".

    Also, truth is not up for a majority vote. If it were, the majority of Americans who want to keep abortion legal would outvote your poll on this board. The majority of Christians once thought the world was flat. The majority of the SBC once believed that slavery was a noble, God-given institution.
     
    #33 Magnetic Poles, Feb 7, 2008
  14. Gwen

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    Pro-life!:thumbs:
     
    #34 Gwen, Feb 7, 2008
  15. Ed Edwards

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    I cannot vote here.

    I am anti-recreational-abortion;
    I am anti-recreational-alcohol.

    I do NOT follow in lock-step with the Bishop of Rome (Pope) about life, so I cannot be called 'pro-life'. BTW, I disagree with him about drinking wine also.

    I believe people who are brain dead are dead, not alive.
     
    #35 Ed Edwards, Feb 7, 2008
  16. steaver

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    I see, so you must be able to "see" the person is drunk otherwise the person must be considered NOT drunk?

    There is a huge problem with that view in scripture. Even though you or I cannot see the child the moment of conception, God does! So as a Christian I must align my positions with those of my Lord's. Why do you kick against the pricks? God says very clearly that those being formed in the womb are people from the moment He begins forming them, and even before.

    Therefor, those who rip apart until dead what God is creating from conception is murdering a person.

    It is all clearly stated in Psalm 139, just study this Psalm and you will see what God's view is on this.

    I like the "drunk verses drink" analogy. It is a good example why we must stand on God's Word on things we cannot physically see with our own eyes.

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
    #36 steaver, Feb 8, 2008
  17. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    You can vote brother Ed, the OP "pro-life" is specific to abortion.

    ps, I don't think any of us here pay any attention to the pope.

    God Bless! :jesus:
     
    #37 steaver, Feb 8, 2008
  18. steaver

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    AMEN!

    This subject should be a slam dunk 100% that a person's life begins at conception. Any Christian shown this in scripture should have no other opinion.

    Read Psalm 139, pray on it. Is it truth? There is no grey area in it at all!

    God Bless! :thumbs:
     
    #38 steaver, Feb 8, 2008
  19. steaver

    steaver Well-Known Member
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    Check this out!

    Jesus chose 12 disciples, 1 did not believe what He said.

    1 out of 12 is 8.33% .

    We have 8.33% here not believing what Jesus said about life in the womb, Psalm 139.

    Something to think about if you find yourself in the 8.33% category.

    And 11 is 91.67% of 12, isn't that crazy?

    God Bless! :jesus:
     
    #39 steaver, Feb 8, 2008
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  20. Dagwood

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    It must be an omen! :eek:
     
    #40 Dagwood, Feb 8, 2008
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