Dark Ages RCC list of Forbidden books

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  1. BobRyan

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    Here is the list of forbidden books mentioned in the Vatican news articles on this thread so far.


    http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/ILP-1559.htm

    Notice that not only are specific Bible banned but "all similar Bibles" are banned AS are all books published by a given publisher that dares to publish any of those bibles etc.

    This practice of extreme draconian censorship - even to the point of burning/banning Bibles and all who print them - was the subject of the Vatican's 2000 committee.

    There is no doubt that enlightened Christians today would condemn such atrocities if they were being "introduced" today.

    But what do Christians say about these atrocities of the dark ages?


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    Bob Ryan,

    Ryan expressed this idea. 'Vatican's 2000 committee. . . ' Does anyone have any data on this committee? One would guess that they kept tight raps on this tool of the Vatican. They are not at all like the Baptists who on this board, say, upfront, "The Truth Shall Set You Free." The Bible says, 'Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.' [II Cor. 3:17] This is true faith.

    The imprimatur governed and administered by the Catholic Church is a powerful weapon on keeping the people of God hoodwinked and only filling their minds with Catholic perspectives with their add-on theology. Am I wrong is saying that the Catholic Church is a control centered institution? I don't think so . . .
     
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    While there was a lot of fanfare going into that study group - I have not heard of a big pronouncement coming out of it.

    Perhaps there are some RC members on this board who are not themselves so tied to the practices of the RCC in the dark ages - that they would be bold enough to look into the actions of their own church around the year 2000, who would have a spirit in full agreement with the Pope and leading RC theologians listed in those news reports and would be interested in a consisten Christian review of that material coming out into the public.

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    Book burning was a common practice of the time. You cannot apply modern standards to times when those standards, fortune or unfortunate, were not in effect.
     
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    AS the Vatican news article pointed out - the practices of torture, forced conversions - and yes the forbidden book list - were all done at the behest of Catholic leadership. Her minions were simply following orders.

    This was NOT the practice of the first century NT church - rather the RCC "developed it".

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    This was NOT the practice of the first century NT church - rather the RCC "developed it".

    These practices mentioned were political measures designed to protect the common good of society; they were not distinctively "Catholic". At that time, all political authorities carried out these common punitive measures to ensure the common good. But, for an Anti-Catholic Seventh Day Adventist with closed ears, shut eyes, and a vehement hatred for the straw man he has constructed to be "The Catholic Church", none of this matters. Only the SDA propaganda matters. Period.
     
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    Your own Vatican reports that your own Pope denies your statement above ALONG with the blue ribbon study panel HE setup on the subject for the year 2000.

    It is THAT report that slams the practice listed above and ALSO that slams the shallow attempts to obfuscate the Catholic church's role in this in the dark ages.

    Read it for yourself rather than "pretending" that if you shoot the messenger history will change. (Another favorite tactic of the dark ages).

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    Since Carson appears to be opposing the Pope on this one - here is the place where I found recently that a supposedly Christian church instituted the "forbidden book list" for all of Europe over a period of centures.

    That a supposedly Christian church keeps "secret files" in its atrocities during the dark ages.

    (That Catholics today who DO NOT have access to those secret files claim non-Catholic accounts of RC atrocities in the dark ages are too high).

    Notice "no equivocation".

    Notice - refernce to the policy of torture and extermination listed previously.

    How refreshing that there are some Catholics willing to place the atrocities in a more "Christian light" rather than tyring to defend or minimalize monsterous acts of atrocity - or worse - continuing to demonize the victims in "true dark ages" spirit.

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    Looking at the list it is very clear the RCC is not the only place to find the books being banned. In fact - in many cases you would not expect to find the RCC having any of them.

    In other words - the "secret files" that the RCC claims to be keeping from its OWN scholars is not the list of forbidden books.

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