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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Aaron, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. quantumfaith

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    Like a flat earth or a geocentric solar system?
     
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    Like big foot, ufo's, 911 was an inside job, and unborn children are just a blob.
     
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    :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:
     
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    Are you being intellectually honest?
     
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    Or a Joel Osteen sermon with Scripture or the name of Jesus in the text.
     
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    Oh I forgot, you are not convinced of a heliocentric solar system....are you? How about the "firmament" thingy? You still hold to the notion that there is or was a dome which held back the waters?
     
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    Dude. Your flat earth canard.

    The Aristotelian scientific establishment fought heliocentricity with more zeal than the church, who was simply listening to the scientific establishment of the day. It's much like you thinking you're doing God a service by persecuting YECs and other anti-Darwinists.

    I never subscribed to the dome/canopy theory.
     
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    At one time Science said the elements were earth, air, fire, and water.

    I don't know about the flat earth but I am sure they taught a geocentric solar system. I don't believe Scripture teaches either.

    Of course Jesus Christ put His stamp of approval on the early chapters of Genesis.
     
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    And yes I remembered ALL of this about you. Don't tell me what I am thinking you are not quite as smart as you like to think yourself to be.
     
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    Yes you are correct there was certainly times when humanity had no understanding of science and very little of cause and effect. I have no problem with Jesus OR, he is my savior too.
     
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    How magnanimous.

    But, does He have a problem with you?
     
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    Not anymore than he does with you.
     
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    But Johnny Cash is hard to classify. Cash is not so easily placed in the liberal or the conservative box. Up against the song "The Man in Black" you have this song "The Man Comes Around," a song religious conservatives and fundamentalists would resonate with more than liberals and progressives. Liberals and progressives generally don't like the image of the Last Judgment.

    So there are these two theological themes in Johnny Cash that are difficult to reconcile.

    On the one hand you have the tolerance and solidarity of "the Man in Black" for the sinners of the world. Even the very worst sinners. The Man in Black was a man who loved and entrained murderers and rapists in prisons across the country. This is the man of At Folsom Prison and At San Quentin.

    But on the other hand you have the words of judgement from "The Man Comes Around."

    How to fit the two pieces together?

    I don't think you do fit them together. At least not neatly and cleanly.

    Personally, if I had to, I'd reconcile the pieces by pointing to the prophets and the Psalms, where the language of judgment is reserved for those exploiting and harming the anawim, the vulnerable ones. That's how I'd make the pieces fit if you forced me to do so. But I'm hesitant to do that here so quickly and easily.

    Because what I think most interesting about the song "The Man Comes Around" is how, as I mentioned above, it is so steeped in the biblical imagination. And the biblical imagination, I'd argue, is always going to explode the boxes of conservative and liberal theology. The biblical imagination, like the God it is trying to describe, is like that whirlwind in a thorn tree. The biblical imagination cannot be codified or systematized. The biblical imagination is going to be wild and untamed.

    And because the theology of Johnny Cash was so shaped by the Scriptures, due to Cash's daily and lifelong reading of the bible, I think it's fitting to note here at the end that Johnny Cash's theology, being a biblical theology, will also be difficult to pin down and put into a box.

    And that, I think, is what makes the theology of Johnny Cash so complex and intriguing, all the currents and crosscurrents.

    The mix of fidelity and unfaithfulness in trying and failing to "walk the line." The dance of light and darkness in the moral juxtapositions of gospel music and murder ballads. And, finally, the man in black standing in solidarity with sinners and the man coming around in apocalyptic judgment.

    It is a compelling and potent mix. A wild and unsystematic theology.

    Like the man himself, a whirlwind in a thorn tree.

    It is the theology of Johnny Cash.
     
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    Johnny Cash is a classic example of turning one's personal demons into $$$(cash). This is pretty typical of the wonderful world of entertainment--of the flesh.
    Not sure how we explain this in terms of Darwin--neo or otherwise. We all inherited this depravity from Adam not many ice ages past.

    C. Darwin was a befuddled seminary student.

    The love of money is still the root of all evil.

    It is still true: we do not want to be in this world--When-- The Man Comes Around.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    James, I am not some devotee of Cash.....what do YOU turn into cash?
     
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    My stipend is from having worked at mostly manual tasks for the government defending the constitution so we can talk about these things on the www. I wasted a lot of it getting ready for a quad bypass in the coronary arteries. This was a good wake up call. Glad I got out of 401 early.

    It all belongs to God. We will all give an account for every farthing--also every idle word and deed. That's a sobering fact.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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