David On Bathsheba

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  1. HAMel

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    Ever wonder what caused David to lust after Bathsheba?

    In 2 Samuel 11 v 1 & 2 it's pretty clear.

    11:1 And it came to pass, after the year was expired, at the time when kings go forth to battle, that David sent Joab, and his servants with him, and all Israel; and they destroyed the children of Ammon, and besieged Rabbah. But David tarried still at Jerusalem.

    2 And it came to pass in an eveningtide, that David arose from off his bed, and walked upon the roof of the king's house: and from the roof he saw a woman washing herself; and the woman was very beautiful to look upon.

    David wasn't where he was supposed to be. Verse 1 tells us that it was the time when KINGS were to go forth. David sent Joab in his place.

    In Verse 2 we are told that David was laying around the house taking his afternoon nap.

    David was NOT where he was supposed to be which opened the door for the beginning of his woes.

    How many of us are Where We Are Supposed To Be?
     
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    Maybe.

    He definitely wasn't where he was supposed to be.

    I'm not so sure it has so much to do with the fact that he delegated the killing to Joab as much as he was out there being a peeping tom.


    Nevertheless, we really need to be where God wants us (wherever that may be). And while we're there, we need to NOT give into carnal lusts.
     
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    And with the person that we are suppossed to be with?
     
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    Interesting choice of a thread title.
     
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    These might be the immediate causes, but actually you can trace it further back then that - long before this he had begun to multiply wives forhimself, something strictly forbidden to a king (Deut 17:17).
     
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    good point, as his son saw it and learned it... Like father Like son!
     
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    I thought so too. :laugh: irony, wrinkly, its still a mess
     
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    We know David was a praying man. Here he wasn't praying, not at the place he should have been, bored, and it looks like he was out of fellowship with God at this point. With all that, why not lust over a woman, have an affair and when all else fails have her husband killed off.
    Thank God that later he correct his attitude toward God after his sin was pointed out to him.
     
  9. righteousdude2

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    I think....

    ...she was where she intended to be! It is my opinion that the devil was involved in this temptation.

    Like Eve, it is a woman that brought down the man. You'd think men would learn, but, not really :laugh:

    Great post :wavey:
     
  10. HAMel

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    None of us like to be "used" as people "use" others to satisfy their agenda. None of us like to be used!

    On the other hand, people like Moses; David; Paul; Job; Adam; Cain; and a slew of others were all "used" by God to set examples for us today. They had no say-so in the matter. They just found themselves being "used".

    In this way however, being "used" by our Lord is most beneficial to us today. If it were not for those scenarios described in the Word, where would we find direction for our lives in today's world?

    I'm sure there is enough blame to go around for both David and Bathsheba but were it not for that Biblical Recording of this incident, along with many of the others, how would we even begin to be aware of the trouble caused by such a sin as lust?

    Over my many years I've noticed hundreds of beautiful women but not once have I ever noticed one that would cause me to leave my wife or to chase another if even for a one night stand. This, even before I became a Christian. The account of David and Bathsheba apparently made an impression on me long before I ever became aware of these two so far back in history.

    Whatever the case, I do praise the Lord for keeping me from that sin. Over the years I've had occasion to know a few people who did fall because of such. I think we all know someone who fell..., including a few pastors. It happens.

    The line, "Those who forget the past are destined to re-live it" or words to that affect are so true. We exist in a circle; a cycle; that never stops and we can't alter any of it. What is going to be will be.

    Praise the Lord for the good and the bad for which He blesses us with. It would really be wrong to muster an attitude against David for had it not been for him and that one night stand with Bathsheba what could we glean from it all for our benefit today? :jesus:

    It's all for our benefit and being "used" by our Lord is a tremendous blessing.
     
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    Adam to God: "The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree and I did eat."

    Eve to God: "The serpent beguiled me and I did eat." Gen 3:12,13.

    Sure sounds like an accountability problem.

    "The devil made me do it" still does not wash.

    We still have difficulty with acknowledging the depth of the depravity of the man-kind even though we see it demonstrated daily.

    David and Bathsheba paid the consequences for their sins--the wages of sin is death.

    Jesus paid it all--The Just for the unjust.

    Peace,

    Bro. James
     
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  12. Scarlett O.

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    No matter what the circumstances of the story - this is the cause of David's immoral desire for Bathsheba.

    The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? - Jeremiah 17:9

    This is the evil in everything that happens under the sun: The same destiny overtakes all. The hearts of men, moreover, are full of evil and there is madness in their hearts while they live, and afterward they join the dead. - Ecclesiates 9:3


    RD2 - I've got a different take on this. I was taught to agree with this statement when I was younger - that Bathsheba was purposely bathing naked in view of David to seduce him.

    I don't believe that anymore.

    I have a theory. It's part conjecture and part scripture. Take it with a grain of salt and anyone with fragile sensibilities about bodily functions need to stop reading.

    OK. We know for a Biblical fact that David impregnated Bathsheba. And, with that being so, she must have been ovulating. And if she were ovulating, then two week prior to that, she was in the middle of a menstrual cycle.

    Sometimes a woman was considered unclean for the duration of her menstrual cycle and sometimes she was considered unclean for up to 7 days after the bleeding stopped. (Leviticus 12 and 15). The Bible doesn't say that a purification bath or mivkah (sp??) was required as part of being ceremonially clean again, but we know that these purification baths have been a part of the fundamentalist Jewish culture even as far back as Jesus' day.

    So my question strictly from conjecture is this? When David got up out of bed that night and walked around on his roof and saw her bathing (the Bible does not say that she was on HER roof), what kind of bathing was she doing?

    I think she was completing a mivkeh. Note, I said, "I think". The Bible says that he slept with her as she has just finished her purification ritual from her cycle.

    I also think that King David - having multiple wives already (and in violation of God's decree for kings) - KNEW just what kind of bathing she was doing. If that's true, then he knew that she was about to be ceremonially clean again.

    People didn't do a lot of regular old bathing back then. They didn't brush their teeth like we do, wear deoderant, or become obsessive/compulsive like we do over every grain of dirt and every unpleasant odor.

    I do not believe that she knew that David was watching her nor was she seducing him nor was she an exhibitionist. The Bible doesn't say that her bathing area was exposed to the public. But David, from his vantage point on HIS roof, could see so much. And with her husband being gone to war - I'm sure that she assumed that all the other warriors, including David was gone.

    I disagree here, too. Are there times when a woman purposefully intended to trick, deceive, and lure a man to destruction. Sure. That happens lots of times.

    But I don't believe that was the case with Eve nor Bathsheba.

     
  13. righteousdude2

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    I Finally Figured out What the Fruit they ATE was.....

    ....it was a banana: After they ate it, they tossed the peel on the ground, and they slipped and fell on the discarded peel! The sin may have been due to littering as much as eating forbidden fruit. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    I thought we needed a laugh break!
     

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