Deadly force

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  1. amity

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    Doesn't matter. Shoot a burglar, make sure he is dead and then tell the police you saw a weapon and were in fear for your life.
     
  3. amity

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    what an answer!

    ahem ... you are surely not suggesting that we:
    1. lie
    2. plant a weapon on the corpse of someone we have just murdered

    now are you?
     
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    My hands are such highly honed elements of

    mayhem & distruction that I must watch myself when
    I blow my nose, lest I RIP OFF MY FACE. :tonofbricks:

    Yes, my hands are registered with the local police ;)
     
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    I think you are confused about the change in the law. The NEW statue will allow a Texan to use deadly force to protect his property WITHOUT RETREAT.

    Currently:

    In 1973, in revising the state's [Texas] criminal code, the Legislature made it mandatory for a person under criminal attack to retreat "if a reasonable person would do so" under similar circumstances. A dozen years ago, the state body amended that, adding that a victim need not retreat if the confrontation occurred in his home.

    A person can use deadly force now in Texas, Governor Perry has simply expanded the circumstances under which this is allowed.
     
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    The way I understood it, it was only if a person made an attempt at retreat first, or if retreat was impossible, as it would be not required if in one's own home.
     
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    In Tennessee and Alaska, and several others that are on the reciprocity list (I look at the list when I want to go to another state with a concealed weapon), if someone is in your house, either entering while you are there or there when you enter, you may automatically assume that they are armed and plan to cause you harm.

    IOW, you may shoot first.

    And, before one of the feel-gooders suggests aiming for the knee or something, when you are defending yourself, your intent is to stop the threat.

    Trying to hit the knee of a moving or dark figure will not stop the threat. Center mass only.
     
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    Yes... it is too difficult to hit moving arms and legs in a threatening situation. Center mass is a much bigger target.
     
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    Terry's interpretation of the law in TX is correct.

    I would not use deadly force to keep my stuff...I would use it in a minute to protect my wife & kids. Would I do it if it were just me? I don't know, to be honest...

    Most scenarios are not cut-and-dried. "Is this scumbag here for my stuff, to hurt us, or both?" And you have 3 seconds to formulate an answer and act on it.

    If I'm in doubt, scumbag's gotta go. I like my family, and plan on them sticking around, Lord willing.
     
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    I pretty much see it this way also. But 3 seconds are not always available.
     
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    When they are coming into my home, am I supposed to ask them if they are mere intruders or if they have more sinister intentions? Really I don't even have to guess.
    John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

    Matthew 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

    Notice that Jesus called that man good that would defend his home.
     
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    Great post, Mr. Newman. Surely, the man who protects his household is doing the Lord's work.
     
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    >ahem ... you are surely not suggesting that we:
    1. lie

    Only crazy people are not afraid of burglars.


    2. plant a weapon on the corpse of someone we have just murdered

    Not necessary. It is a pro forma statement that one thinks a burglar is armed, sort of like pledging allegiance to the flag . . . .
     
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    2 to the chest one to the head and then look for the next target.
     
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    I just last month exercised my 2nd Admendment Right and purchased a 16 Gauge shotgun single shot for home defense (actually it was a birthday gift from my wife). Told my wife, if there's an intruder she's not to get into a 101 questions, just point in the intruders direction, center mass and fire.

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    Yeeeeee-hawwwww !!!!
     
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    And in most cases, that will stop the threat!

    I specifically use ammo in my handgun that will not pierce the target and endanger a person behind him. It also has a lot more stopping power at close range.
     
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    I haven't seen a 16 Gauge shotgun in a long time. I'm kind of partial to 20 Gauge myself.
     
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    Don't know much about shotguns, myself. I know my mom has a Baretta that's worth abot 15 grand. Phyllis has a Remington 870, I guess it's a pretty popular model. For close in self defense, I would prefer my Browning M1911 .45. (I had to look at it) I heard Smith & Wesson is coming out with the S&W1911, and would like to look at it when it comes out.

    My buddy Paul has a .50 magnum. You should see what it does to a 4x4 beam.
     
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    We gotta outlaw chain saws :(
     

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