Death with Dignity Laws or Legal Euthanasia

Call it killed by your own doctor if you want to...it doesn't bother me. I'm not worried about the name of it. I mean what are we, third graders here that need to debate over whether the name of something is good or not?

Is it dignified to be in so much pain every day that you have to be hopped up on so many pain killers that you don't even know where you are? Should we be dignified enough to take all those pain killers for the rest of our life and sit around and be out of our mind?

You must have a strange definition of dignified (maybe OldRegular can hound you about that definition)...but dignified to me doesn't mean sitting around on pain medication hallucinating and acting like a loon bat.

 

My point is that those laws most likely would not have passed by a majority vote if they were titled "killed by your own doctor" instead of the comforting soothing title "death with dignity".

Dignity comes from within. It is a state of regard for ones self and recognizing the value of ones own personhood. It has nothing to do with your health, wealth, or station in life.

That you do not understand the concept of personal dignity explains your seeming disdain for the terminally ill.

 

Please stay on topic.

 

I have disdain for the terminally ill? How exactly is that? Because I want the terminally ill to have some choice in whether or not they want to continue living in misery? It's you that seems to have the disdain for them, since you don't believe they are capable of making a decision about their own life.

I may be tagging you wrong, but I thought you considered yourself a conservative. I guess your sense of personal responsibility stops when it comes to this issue. Do you have other liberal leaning tendencies such as requiring that I wear a seat belt, a helmet, or other personal safety devices?

How is someone killing themselves bothering you?

 

You are entitled to express your opinion even if wrong. It is not the task of doctors to take life but to save life. If you can't take what life hands out than end it yourself.

 

Then go ahead and end your misery. Don't drag someone else into your suicide, just put a gun to your head or save up enough pain pills to do the job. Don't try to dignify suicide by calling it death with dignity.

Of course if you fail and the legals find out they will lock you up in many states. Strange isn't it. Just no freedom at all.

 

i am not trying to derail the thread, I cannot come up to your expertise in doing that. I am simply trying to get you to tell what death with dignity means to you.

Frankly I don't care what wikipedia says. Suicide, assisted or not, bloody or not, is not death with dignity.

 

How can anyone discuss death with dignity if they don't know what it is?

 

I assume from Matt Wade and Magnetic Poles that death with dignity is having a serial killer like Dr. Death of Michigan fame come in and help you do something you don't have the intestinal fortitude [must be dignified in discussing death with dignity] to do themselves.

Apparently these people do not understand that God, not Dr. Death wherever he is, is in control.

 

Thank you very much targus for bringing some, may i use the word "dignity", to this nonsensical discussion!

 

Thank you Ann for your heart warming story. Perhaps it is strange that I should call it that but I do.

My mother died at 97 from congestive heart failure. All the living brothers and one sister were with her in the hospital. They had ask me not to come in because I had some heart problems. I went in anyway. When I walked into the hospital room she looked around and counted and was satisfied. Some time later that day [Wednesday] she went into a coma. Her doctor of many years stated he could not hear any activity in the lungs yet she still lived. God took her on Monday morning.

I believe that calling assisted suicide death with dignity is ridiculous. God gave us life and I believe that he intends that we cherish that life. However, in time death will come to all. To me death with dignity is being ready to meet God in whatever circumstances He may choose, understanding that: Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints.

 

This "death with dignity law" is nothing more than assisted suicide, which is still suicide.

There is NO dignity in killing yourself, assisted or otherwise.

My uncle killed himself a few years ago due to his perceived failure as a human being because of alcoholism. I see no difference in his reason for suicide and a terminally ill person. Both have decided their life if worthless. But life is never worthless to God and as long as there is life there is hope for either recovery or the influence one can give to others through their death, as was the case with Ann's mother.


I also think of the life of Paul. He was tortured, beaten and eventually beheaded, but he endured it all. He could have committed suicide, knowing that he was going to the sword, but instead he died a martyr's death and glorified God. I think we should do the same.

 

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Comparing people to pets is apples and refrigerators. They were not made in the image of God.

We should never withdraw someone from a respirator unless there is no brain activity, we should never withhold nutrition, and machines should be used again so long as the brain is active. In other words they should already be dead before we withdraw life saving options. The Terri Schivo case was murder and so is assisting suicide.