Defending our Military

Apples and oranges. Your fruit diet must be a trip.

 

Then, by all means, retract your theocracy example and try something else. Or at least attempt to explain why your theocracy example is valid, when you later say that a theocracy example doesn't apply because we're not a theocracy.

 

Apples and oranges try some meat. :laugh:

 

Let me try again, and I promise to write slowly: you used an example based on a theocratic government. When given an example from another theocratic government, you then stated we couldn't use an example of a theocratic government. This is either hypocritical, or double-minded, or even both.

So either explain why your example is applicable while no one else's is, or acknowledge that your reference has no bearing on the discussion so we can move on to applicable discussion points.

 

Apples and oranges :laugh: Don what I have is a difficult thing with is I think you are an intelligent person. However you post some of the dumbest (no offense) questions when you try and use apples and oranges as your rebuttal. What you are trying to use has no relationship to the question I asked. Unless you keep it in the same parameters you are apples and oranges.

 

(sigh)
You asked: So if we live under a king that says murder all the first born males you will obey, correct?

To which I then asked about you following Saul in killing all the Amelikite babies, although Saul didn't fully follow God's orders. You then replied that you would obey Saul, because of it being a theocracy. So then I pointed out that your first question was also in a theocracy, which begs the point: the egyptian soldiers believed that Pharoah was a god (or at least half-god), and thus believed they were following their god's orders (although we know they were following the wrong god). So where did your original question "fit the parameters"?

Or were you merely trying to insinuate a disparaging view towards SaturnNeptune? i.e., that he would "blindly" follow orders in a non-theocracy with no regard for the legal, ethical, and/or moral considerations? In which case, the situation speaks even more about your character.

You want to keep it apples and apples, then don't introduce oranges. And by all means, don't introduce rotten fruit.

 

[SIZE=+0]Apples and oranges my friend apples and oranges. Ask a relative question and I will respond, but you are asking apples and oranges. [/SIZE]:laugh:

 

A good insight into the mind of FAL.

Now if he would only answer Don's question.

 

He's not going to, because he'll have to admit that he started down a path that he didn't really want to go; that by answering the question I asked about him following Saul, he'll have to admit that he'd be doing the same thing that he wants our military members to *not* do; and so on.

So just consider this part of the conversation ended. It's too fruity to continue at this point.:laugh:

 

Apples and oranges. You must be a farmer :laugh:

 

IMO, the vast majority are BB members who are logging in from the workplace.

 

Oh, I know. He's painted himself into a corner and is trying to save face. He got caught and knows it.

 

You are right LE troops follow orders. Orders their superior officers give. What are they're superior officers doing? Protecting and defending the constitution as they swore to do?

The president says "my authority to make war comes from the UN and the international community not the constitution, not the congress". Right there he is violating the constitution of the United States and his oath of office. Openly.

Not only is he violating it he's laughing about it because he knows Sapper's superiors will follow his orders rather than honor their oath. Seems to me if Sapper's superiors were honorable men they'd refuse to follow the orders given by a man who dares to make such a claim. A man who openly and flagrantly violates his oath of office and the constitution of the United States. A man who is so obviously an enemy of the constitution. Yet they don't even bawk. They follow orders from an enemy of the constitution they swore to defend and expect to be honored for it. They'll get no honor from this here kid until they start acting honorable, period.

Here's my suggestion then do away with swearing to protect and defend the constitution because obviously the military doesn't give a hoot nor holler about honoring that oath from a four general to a buck private. Instead swear an oath to protect and defend the UN, the global bankers, the corporate raiders, and our corupt government.

That's what they're doing when they refuse to protect and defend the constitution by following the orders of their superiors who are not honoring their oath. At least by swearing to protect and defend the globalists they all serve they wouldn't be lying through their teeth upon swearing to protect and defend the constitution. Or better yet just do away with oaths entirely and just follow the orders of whoever or whatever claims to be in authority.

You all wanted me to suggest a solution so there it is.

LE, I wish you would stop saying I don't believe there are people out there who want to kill us because I do most certainly believe there is. The question is why do they want to kill us? It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that we've been blowing up their towns and cities, occupying their lands and dividing up their resources for over a hundred years would it?

 

Sad, but true. :tear:

 

Now you've got me curious; between 1912 and 1991, what muslim towns and cities were we blowing up? What muslim lands were we occupying? What muslim resources were we dividing up? All I can think of is Libya and Iran, and those were both in response to actions taken against the US. So please, educate me.

 

The First Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Tripolitan War or the Barbary Coast War, was the first of two wars fought between the United States and the Northwest African Berber Muslim states known collectively as the Barbary States. These were Tripoli and Algiers, which were quasi-independent entities nominally belonging to the Ottoman Empire, and (briefly) the independent Sultanate of Morocco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War

 

I will not even mention the thoughts (as I want to remain a member of this board) going through my head this evening. While reading the posts by one individual in this thread, someone in another room started playing God Bless the USA by Lee Greenwood. Not a good combination this 4th of July eve.

 

Kinda makes me think that some of our BB posters (trollers?) ought to set up shop in some Islamic-controlled nations & rant on their internet forums about such nations' treatment of women.......Wonder how long they'd last doing that? :tear::tear:

 

If you'll recall, Poncho said "for over a hundred years"; that implies a continual effort, and thus why I specified between 1912 and 1991. You had to go back more than 200 years to provide an example.

So if you really want to help out Poncho, stay within the parameters: which muslim towns and cities have we been bombing up until 1991? What muslim lands were we occupying? What muslim resources were we dividing up?