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Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bro. Curtis, Jul 5, 2012.
A joining of husband and wife. The two flesh become one.
They're not husband and wife until their joined.
Technically (which might be important) it is the joining together of a man and a woman in holy vows of matrimony in the sight of God and under the covenant of grace where they become spiritually one flesh.
What about my friend who's husband is a quadreplegic who cannot consummate a marriage? Are they truly married? Is it the act of intercourse that causes one to be married?
How does that set with the OT when there was no vows and God still pronounces them married by just coming together
Gen 2:24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
That is a good point and I think the answer is no they do not have a biblical marriage. They cannot become one flesh, and they cannot propagate. While they are certainly in a relationship and might bond it cannot be the same as two people who can meet the parameters of a biblical marriage.
"...And they cannot propagate."
So couples unable to have children cannot have Biblical marriages?
Great question. I would think declaring their love for each other is what joins them.
I do say once the two flesh have joined, only God should be able to seperate them.
No that was not what I said. You have addesd to my words as usual.
No, I quoted you. No words have been added.
Do you hold that people in similar situations like Annsni's friends are living in sin?
wow, we can find some of the weirdest stuff to disagree on.
My two cents to this odd-ball discussion: If we try to limit "biblical marriage" to a purely physical connection, then we completely ignore Ephesians 5 that says "like Christ loves the church, and gave Himself for it." If our marriages are supposed to be living examples of the union between Christ and His church, then focusing on sexual intercourse as being the defining point of biblical marriage is flawed. When we leave our parents, there's no sexuality to it. When we cleave to our spouses, it's more than just physical; it's also spiritual, and should strive to resemble the relationship between Christ and the church.
Like I said, just my two cents.
I personally believe that the leaving and cleaving, along with public vows ("till death do us part") are acceptable.
Our Lord knows our limitations, and a help meet for one is not necessarily the same kind of help meet for another. He knows the heart.
No I do not believe they are living in sin. They are married as a couple in the eyes of the law and I believe that God accepts that part of it, but they do not have a marriage from a biblical standpoint.
Since intercourse outside of a marriage is sin, I would say the act is the central to the marriage. It's not a union until it happens....
But I agree with the spirit of your post. I just don't see a ceremony, or liscence, or even witnesses as part of what God recognizes as a marriage.
Please discuss this in another forum. This is the politics forum. Plus, personal attacks and inuendoes and responses have been deleted. Thanks.