DEFINED KJB supports 1611 marginal note

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  1. Logos1560

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    For its rendering "fitches" at Ezekiel 4:9, the 1611 KJV had a marginal note: "Or, spelt."

    D. A. Waite's DEFINED KJB included this note concerning the Hebrew word in its definition: "Heb spelt--a wheat-like crop" (p. 1092).

    Does Waite's DEFINED KJB in effect support the
    1611 KJV's marginal note as the more accurate
    rendering of the Hebrew word instead of the word in the 1611 text: "fitches"?
     
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    Hey, that's not fair holding people up to what they actually say! j/k [​IMG]
     
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    My dictionary gives a basic definition of "fitch". A "fitchew" or European polecat.

    I'm sure glad that the AV got it straight in the marginal notes. Wouldn't it be a blessing if modern KJV revisions were honest enough to return to those alternative notes.
     
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    The 1827 COMPREHENSIVE BIBLE edited by William Greenfield maintained that this Hebrew word "is doubtless spelt" (p. 863).

    In an appendix, the 1895 SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER'S BIBLE [a KJV] pointed out: "The marginal reading 'spelt,' is doubtless correct as it resembles wheat" (p. 86).

    WILSON'S O. T. WORD STUDIES defined this Hebrew word as "spelt" (p. 167).

    Concerning the KJV's rendering 'fitches,' the ILLUSTRATED DICTIONARY OF THE BIBLE noted: "a plant apparently mislabeled by the KJV in Ezekiel 4:9. The correct identification is spelt" (p. 851).

    The KJV had translated this same Hebrew word as "rye" at Exodus 9:32 and Isaiah 28:25 and translated a different Hebrew word 'qetsach' as "fitches" at Isaiah 28:25, 27.
     
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    fwiw, Webster's 1828 dictionary give the definition of "fitch" as "A chick-pea."
     
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    Ezekiel 4:9
    Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof...

    Here in the beautiful Puget Sound, WA area I buy what is called Ezekiel 4:9 Bread made by Ranier Organic Bakery. It's flourless bread made with all organic ingredients including sprouted wheat, barley, soy beans, lentils, millet, and "spelt".

    It's great, it's coarse, with lots of roughage.
    Every slice has 3 grams of fiber.

    HankD
     
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    Do KJV-only posters agree with Waite's DEFINED KJB
    that the 1611's marginal note "spelt" is correct
    and thus more accurate than the 1611's text
    "fitches?"
     
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    Do KJV-only posters agree that the 1611 marginal note "spelt" is better, clearer,
    or more accurate than the word in the text ["fitches"]?
     

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