Democracy or Republic, which is it?

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  1. poncho

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    Found this pamphlet on the web. Click here to read...(PDF)

    This explains the difference between the two as well as anything I have read so far and does it with few words. :smilewinkgrin:
     
  2. KenH

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    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner. - bumper sticker
     
  3. billwald

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    NEITHER!!!!!!! We are ruled by the case law and the Supreme Court.
     
  4. Mr.M

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    America is a Constitutional Republic with Democratic Representation. Plain and simple.
     
  5. JustChristian

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    The U.S. is a Republic but not for the reasons stated in that pamphlet. Simply put, in a Democracy a country is ruled directly by a plebiscite of all the people. In a Republic they are ruled by representatives that they have elected.
     
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    We are so far from a representative Republic, that there is no resemblance. We are a dastardly Democracy, where the will of the people is frequently trampled on. Were it not for an inordinate upwelling of protest, we'd have been strapped with an insane immigration law.
     
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    No...both systems require representatives. The republican system holds their representatives to established law. A Democracy establishes its own laws.
     
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    Awful pamphlet. No one has a pure democracy, so to set that up against a republic is just nonsense. Change "democracy" to "constitutional democracy" and all of a sudden you're going to have a much tougher time distinguishing it from a republic.
     
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    Demoupublic

    The very fact that you all disagree on what we have shows a very distictive problem. The men who voted this country into existence knew what they gave us. Where did we lose it?

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  10. JustChristian

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    Go to the dictionary. You're misinterpreting the two terms.

    Republic

    1 a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government c : a usually specified republican government of a political unit.


    Democracy

    1 a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
     
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    Demopublic

    The 17th Amendment to the US Const. effectively put all the power of the Republic into the hands of the Mob. We have Mob rule.

    Case in Point: Elections at the GAZA STRIP

    When the bunch that wasn't supposed to be elected was elected, the bunch in the US that tout that Democracy is the political world saviour, didn't want the bunch elected in GAZA. So......what happened. The biggest bunch voted. The bunch that was elected was supposedly the bad guys. The US bunch started screeming for new elections. It ends up we have the same system. The biggest bunch always wins.

    I'm just waiting til the biggest bunch in our country decides to call this land MEXIAMERICA.

    Bartimaeus
     
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    We are a democratic-republic.
     
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    Don't forget Canada eh? MEXIAMERICA s/b MEXIAMERICADA.
     
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    When asked what kind of government our forefathers created Benjamin Franklin stated...

    "A republic, if you can keep it."​

    I expect that if he were asked today, he'd say it looks like we lost it.
     
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    What do you think is murdously treaturous about our system of government? Name a better one.
     
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    Which one?

    First of all no one said it was "murdously treaturous".

    Then, I gave a "tongue in cheek" rendition of a recent fiasco of the Democratic process. I will say it straight out and then you may want to post.

    The Palastinian Vote. It was conducted and well watched by United Nations personnell and even our own beloved Jimmy Carter. A true Democracy in epic proportions. But guess what? The Bad Guys won.
    Here's how it happened. With the democratic process the majority rules. The majority in the Gaza strip wanted the bad guys to win. They were voted in. The American gov't started screaming because that wasn't supposed to happen. The good guys are supposed to win.

    This will eventually happen in every Democracy. I am no political process expert but it doen't take an Einstein to figure it out.

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    Whatever do you mean? :confused:
     
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    Doesn't matter because nothing will change except the window dressing. The same people own both parties.
     

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