demons versus mental illness

Was David demon possessed? He wrote a psalm about depression, described it perfectly.

 

Salamander: //Hmmm? I wonder if any of you consider demonic
posession can occur in objects as well as people?//

I've had a few computers that appeared to be demon
possessed. Of course, one was a Compaq that talked over
my 12K-byte Modem to Compaq HQ in Hong Kong ...

{that was back when we payed for internet access
BY THE MINUTE (it was like 50¢ a minute)
Needless to say, we talked like kids IM today on
cell/satellite phones. }

 

But he forgot to call it a disease. No one disputes the existence of sadness.

 

David was oppressed, not possessed. God's people cannot be possessed by devils.

Also, as James Newman pointed out, David did not call it a disease.

 

Foul! Unnecessary roughness of a Christian Lady.
You have to give 12 scriptures supporting your
viewpoint (if you have a viewpoint, scriptures
about salvation if you don't have a viewpoint).

 

Amity: //Epilepsy is a neurological problem, not a mental problem.//

Discern the similarities and differences between "neurological problem"
and "mental problem". Give examples of each. Thank you.

 

Scriptures for 'oppression' not 'possession' please. Thank you.

BTW, David also didn't speak about Demon Rum

 

While it's possible that some mental illness (as in Jesus' Day) is caused by "demon" possession, how can one know the difference? I worked in a VA medical center for 28 years. It was primarily a psychiatric hospital. A friend of mine rebuked a patient there in the name of Jesus, and the patient recoiled in fear, crying, "No. don't do that!" Was he possessed, or was he just "religious" despite being crazy? :godisgood:

 

I think the foul is the unnecessary derailment of an argument by intentional jesting (which is not convenient).

 

Acts 10:38 38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

 

I must have misunderstood your OP.

I thought an illness was a disease. I don't believe in mood diseases.

 

While Jesus (and the apostlies) healed many of physical ailments and demon possession not to mention raising people from the dead, I think we can all agree that healings like that are not happening these days. Although I believe and have seen many healings take place, I have yet to see someone raised from the dead.
The main 'healing' our Lord spoke of and taught was spiritual healing. He chose to heal in the physical sense in order to prove that He was (is) God.


Mark 2
8 But immediately, when Jesus perceived in His spirit that they reasoned thus within themselves, He said to them, "Why do you reason about these things in your hearts? 9 Which is easier, to say to the paralytic, 'Your sins are forgiven you,' or to say, 'Arise, take up your bed and walk'? 10 But that you may know that the Son of Man has power on earth to forgive sins"--He said to the paralytic, 11 "I say to you, arise, take up your bed, and go to your house." 12 Immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went out in the presence of them all, so that all were amazed and glorified God, saying, "We never saw anything like this!"

The point is that we can't wait for miraculous healing, we have to use the common sense that God gave us and seek medical help as well as pray for God's will.

 

I was serious, not jesting.

I am a Deacon and deacons should have one foot in the grave:

1 Timothy 3:8 (KJV1611 Edition):
Likewise must the Deacons bee graue,
not double tongued, not giuen to much wine,
not greedy of filthy lucre,

 

Autism is also a neurological disorder, one of my grandsons suffers with this .

 

Yes, I made a boo boo. I meant oppressed. Thank you for catching that. I rarely make mistakes.

Christians can NOT be possessed.

Possessed: spurred or moved by a strong feeling, madness, or a supernatural power (often fol. by by, of, or with): The army fought as if possessed. The village believed her to be possessed of the devil.

They CAN be oppressed:

Oppressed: To keep down by severe and unjust use of force or authority: a people who were oppressed by tyranny.

And they CAN be obsessed over possession and oppression. :BangHead:

Obsessed: having an obsession (usually fol. by with or by): He is obsessed with eliminating guilt.

 

If depression is caused by demon possession, then can christian be demon possessed? if not then explain how there can be christians with depression. It doesn't matter what david called it, would you say he was demon possessed, was the question, or are questions too hard. Also explain why anyone should believe anything medical coming from someone who is not a doctor, but presumes to make medical diagnosis, and tell people what if any medications they need.
As I'll remind you once agian, praticing medicine without a license is a crime in this country.

Theres a big difference between feeling sad by events in life, and having a an imballance in chemicals in the brain. If you can't trust medical science to know the difference, then they aren't trust worthy for anything else either.

 

Tim...I agree 100%. It is absurd that anyone even suggest epilepsy be caused by demonic possession.



Not to open the mental illness medication question again, however it is interesting to note that anti-seizure medications are often used to treat the manic phase of bipolar disorder, i.e. Depakote, Tegretol, and Trileptal.

Bill

 

One slight modification here: Alzheimer's can be evidentially proven; however, it is a post-mortem diagnosis. Alzheimer's patients have a plaque-like substance that destroys brain tissue. It can only be found during an autopsy...although later-stage AD is a pretty clear diagnosis from symptoms. Thus, most medical diagnoses for dementia will say something like, "Dementia, possible Alzheimer's."