Did God Create Intelligent Life Anywhere Else In Universe?

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  1. JesusFan

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    Or is The Human race it in all the Universe?

    if you think yes...

    Are they UFO?
    Would an Alien race need their own "Jesus" to atone for them, or would they been kept sinless state by God?

    is there ANY Biblical reasons why could not be other intelligence out there?

    Note: NOT including Angels/Demons here, , meaning flesh/blood beings!
     
  2. Amy.G

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    There is absolutely nothing in all of scripture to indicate God created other beings. To think so would be an argument from silence and the product of an active imagination.
     
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    :D There is absolutely nothing in all of scripture to indicate God didn't create other beings. To think He didn't would be an arguement from silence and the product of an inactive imagination.

    Sorry Amy. Couldn't resist.

    JesusFan, we aren't given the knowledge of what God might have done or might be doing elsewhere in our universe or in the spiritual realm. My personal belief is that God has insulated us againt that knowledge for reasons of His own. I don't believe little green men crash landed in Roswell nor do I believe "aliens" abduct people. Roswell was more likely another secret government experiment and "aliens" are most likely explained as demon activity to draw our attention away from God. (cause after all, if we are chasing after some "alien conspiracy" then we aren't putting our minds and talents into spreading God's word)
     
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    Where is there intelligent life on earth!?
     
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    It is possible that God did create life in some other area of the universe, but if so, He certainly has not told us anything about it.

    If He did, we can only but wonder how Jesus (who acted once in all of history) interacts with another world full of people (or created beings of some sort)? Seems sort of implausible from that angle.

    Of note is how totally "special" our own planet and life actually is. For decades, Science has been selling us on the fact that out of the "billions and billions" of planets, life would certainly be possible on many of them. But the more we learn (from Science) about our own planet, solar system, galaxy, etc., the less plausible it is that life might exist on anther planet somewhere.

    Conditions have to be fine-tuned to an EXTREME level in order to cause life as we know it to come about and to thrive. The order of magnitude of this fine-tuning is somewhere in the range of 1 X 10 to the 73 power, a number higher than all the atoms in the universe.

    Just think about the range of temperatures where life can readily exist (at least in "higher" forms) has to fall between freezing and boiling (and in fact, between freezing and about 100 degrees Fahrenheit. That is about a 60 degree range. What a small window! Add in the needs for certain metals (not just for building stuff, but the body needs them to survive), the need to be just so far away from high radiation levels of the galaxy center, but close enough to not be 20 degrees above absolute zero, the huge moon that serves to pull tides (much life thrives because of the tide) and sweep debris from the orbital path that would otherwise extinguish the chances for life, plus the design function of the moon being precisely the right size and location to give total lunar and solar eclipses so that we can indeed see that the heavens declare the glory of God -- they DO!
     
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    The odds of life in any solar system as far as our telescopes can see are next to nothing. Heck, even if we were to move slightly closer to or away from the sun our planet would not be able to sustain life. Of course, this is post fall. If it pleases God to raise up new beings at some point in the future, He will. God is a creator, and I don't believe He is ever done creating.

    Earth is clearly in a unique location able to sustain life.
     
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    Yes, but even our own Milky Way galaxy is truly vast, with billions upon billions of stars, and beyond that, there are billions of other galaxies.
     
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    I understand that, but when you look at our location within our own galaxy, we are in such a unique position that the location we are in shields us from many calamities. Even the planets in our solar system are positioned just right in order to protect us.

    There is a layman's chapter on all of this in Lee Strobel's A Case For A Creator...check it out.
     
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    No there is no biblical reason to believe that there are others outside of earth. If you hold to the creation account then there cannot be any others. Someone might say that God did not give us all the information in the creation account. That is possible, but doubtful.
    First because of the fall of man all creation groans and is in travail (Romans 8:22). If there was others then they are effected by the fall of man on this planet. That alone tells me there are no others outside of earth.
    Also there is a time coming when all the heavens and earth is going to be destroyed by a gigantic explosion because of what the fall of man did to the creation 2Peter 3:10. So I would say that there is no reason to believe that there are other beings out there except someone just wants to believe it with out any evidence and even against what scripture seems to point to as there being none.
     
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    There is no reason to think that this isn't possible. Realistically we will never know. C.S. Lewis said, about this question, that there is no reason to suspect they aren't under the same normative revelation.

    NASA seems to be able to make astonishingly concrete claims based on relatively minuscule data. If we were to set off today, using the best technology we have, it would take over 3,000 years to reach the closest system possibly containing life...and we have no way of knowing whether it is intelligent or not.

    That said, of the UFO "encounters" out there too many of them exist in ways that are easily explainable or understandable with normal man-made or atmospheric conditions. Other reports are from people with too significant of track records of delusion, intoxication, drug abuse, and lack of honesty to take seriously. Of the few that remain which are questionable many fall into a category that resemble too closely demonic encounters.

    I do believe there is life outside of earth. I just don't think there is intelligent life outside of earth.

    It is highly bothersome that these astro-physicists can make such broad, sweeping statements of certainty about "observed life" or such that aren't challenged immediately. Of course this is contradiction of our world.
     
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    I think that pretty much sums up the supposed UFO encounters reported in modern times—good explanation!
     
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    20And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

    The verse is significant.

    1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

    2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

    3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
     
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    I do not believe a case can be built either way ... i.e. that there is intelligent life other than on earth or that there is not intelligent life on other planets. [Let's leave the discussion of intelligence to another thread. :laugh:

    Having said that, I think it is a bit arrogant to think that in the billions of stars with with planets circling them to not think it is possible that God created intelligent life elsewhere.

    I like the book, "Out of the Silent Planet" by C.S. Lewis and the question he poses, that being, "What if earth is the only planet that rebelled against God." Because we rebelled, sinned, our direct relationship with God was broken and we became the silent planet. The other planets, where beings did not experience a fall are still in direct communication with God. Very interesting question, at least to me.
     
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    The problem is that scripture says that all creation groans and is in travail because of the fall on earth. If there are people on other planets then they have been effected by the sin on this one even unto travail (struggling, suffering, trouble).
    Also there is coming a time when everything will be destroyed and that means other people will be destroyed because of man's sin.
    [SIZE=+0]There is no reason to believe there is intelligent life out there except personal choice. In fact there is biblical reason not to believe there are others with intelligent life. By the way there is not much intelligent life here on earth. :tongue3:[/SIZE]
     
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    After sharing the freeway with other motorists, I'm not so sure God created "intelligent" life here on Earth! :tonofbricks:
     
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    Is this all creation on earth or all creation anywhere? The Bible, much of which is history, is about history and life on earth. Would other planets, especially if there was no fall, have a different Bible or would they even need a Bible as they would still be in direct contact with God?


    Yes, they would be affected in that they have no communication with us, but in Lewis's book they are in contact with each other because they are still in contact with God.



    Also there is coming a time when everything will be destroyed and that means other people will be destroyed because of man's sin.

    I believe this could be argued that everything on earth but not necessarily in the entire universe. Interesting thought.



    I am not sure I agree. I'll think on it.



    And they said, Amen!
     
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    It says all creation. There is absolutely no reason to believe it means anything else except to satify a person belief.

    Lewis who?

    The scripture says everything will be distroyed not just humans.
     
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    Read this quote from John Kennedy

    its about the 20th one down - refering to Nobel prize winners - and a previous President
     
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    That is one interpretation. It may or may not be correct.

    C.S. Lewis in his book, Out of the Silent Planet, book one of his trilogy.

    But as our Bible concerns the "doings" and history of earth, perhaps it means everything on earth.

    I am not arguing, just mulling it over. I like to roll thoughts around and look at them from various angles.

    Salty, I have always liked the quote about "when Jefferson dined alone."
     
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    As not everyone on the BB will have read Out of the Silent Planet, (that's clear from the question: "Lewis who?" :) ) it's important to state that it is a work of science fiction, as are Voyage to Venus (otherwise known as Perelandra) and That Hideous Strength, the other two books of the trilogy. So your quoted words were spoken by a fictional character (unless they were from the author's introduction).
     

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