Featured Did God use Evolutionary process to create Adam/Eve?

According to YECers God was busy for the past 6 days creating the universe. The Bible said God "made coats of skin" as coverings. Why wouldn't He simply create these skins as well?

As to death in the garden before sin the only thing I can say for sure is that there was no human death. Besides, dinosaur fossils are found all over the world, and not in the area of the garden of Eden.

 

Because it foretold of the blood sacrifice God was to require for atonement. Adam and Eve had sinned. Blood was spilled to "cover" them in their shame. That would one day be reflected in the Law.

I'd say that's profoundly irrelevant. Perhaps there are no fossils of any kind around the approximate location of the Garden. Who knows for sure?

 

Just as one of those technical details...

So what was the Tree of Life doing there? Seriously, if there was no death, why was there a Tree of Life?

As I recall, God told Adam (Genesis 2:17) "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Did Adam and Eve die that day? They didn't die in the physical sense, did they? They died in the spiritual sense, surely.

Also consider John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Do all saved people life forever? Or does this refer to the glorious, spiritual body we are promised? We do not live 'everlastingly' in our mortal bodies.

I think the passing from mortal body into imperishable body was always part of the plan; and I'm sure animals and plant life died as well. It is part of the life function. However, when man sinned was when death took on a scary feeling. Prior to the Fall, death was more like 'graduation'.

Thoughts?

 

Flag on the play...

Flag on the play!

To the best of my knowledge, the Garden of Eden has not be positively and unquestionably located and identified. So the statement as made is not defensible.

Or did I miss a discovery? Pray enlighten me.

 

Back to Yeshua

This 'animal skin clothing' was a foreshadowing of he Mosaic Law and sacrifices, which was a foreshadowing of the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus.

I'm reading those words as 'mankind' and 'contemporaries'; if so, not by some period of time. Man did not exist in the same time frame as dinosaurs - at least not the big, huge movie star type dinosaurs.

The current thought is modern birds are what is left of the dinosaurs, so 'sort of'.

 

The highest concentration of crude oil is in the middle east. That may or may not explain the lack of fossils found. A global flood being another reason.

 

I think the presence of the Tree of Life is an interesting feature to suggest that humanity was not created with indefinite life spans.

I also think that the death indicated, to result from the fall was not physical death, but spiritual death and separation from our God.

I certainly think death (and entropy) existed prior to the event that we know as the Fall, but of course, that is not difficult for one who does not have a problem with evolution being "in the mix".

I would find it extremely surprising if anyone would attempt to legitimately suggest that they have discovered the "garden".

 

How? (not being snarky)

 

Consider that no one ever died in Christ's presence. If the world was perfect as He is -- and I believe it was -- before the Fall, it isn't likely that physical death existed before the Fall.

 

This number: Although I cannot say precisely why, but, I don't associate physical death with imperfection. Also, God said of His creation that "it was good". Does that mean perfect, as we think of it?

 

Disconnect -

Unwrap that claim a little, please. Do you mean 'presence' in the sense of 'eyesight and earshot', or 'presence on Earth'? I find that claim somewhat questionable.

I think you are fudging the meaning of God's editorial comment that it "... was very good."

Humans were created in God's image, but not an absolute and total perfect copy. In similar fashion, Earth was finished and exactly like God intended, but that doesn't mean it was self-sustaining forever.

 

Yesh

I'll agree with that, but now you're not reading the Bible literally. Not to mention you are agreeing with my argument.

 

Yeshua,

You may be able to glean some insight from the following article authored by Tim Keller (Yes, one who is reformed in his theology !!!!!)

http://biologos.org/uploads/projects/Keller_white_paper.pdf