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Did Obama try to avoid paying his fair share?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by targus, Sep 19, 2008.

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  1. targus

    targus New Member

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    The 2006 return also show a charitable deduction for a $13,000 donation to the "Congressional Black Caucus. It is illegal to deduct political contributions as charitable contributions. The campaign said Mr. Obama had filed an amended return to eliminate that item as a deduction."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/26/u...ea&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

    "Deducting political contributions is strictly prohibited by the IRS, and I am still scratching my head about this incredible gaffe by two Harvard educated lawyers knowledgeable about both law and politics. Additionally, the return was professionally prepared by a firm that touts its tax expertise on its website. What exactly is going on here?"

    http://wilmette.blogspot.com/2008/03/barack-obamas-tax-returns-lingering.html


    What exactly is going on here ?

    IMO Obama is again not living up to the expectations that he has for everyone else.

    Just as equal pay to women for equal work only applies when it is OPM (other people's money) - paying a fair share of taxes also only applies when it is OPM.

    Is anyone else seeing a pattern here?
     
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    First Rangel. Now Obama.

    I wonder how deep tax cheating goes in the democrat party.
     
    #2 carpro, Sep 19, 2008
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    I was wondering the same thing about the Republican party. You know, God's party.
     
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    More honest, hard-hitting, debate on the issues, eh BB ?
     
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    But Obama is running for president and wants change, eh? More change ($$) for himself, I guess.
     
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    Wouldn't Obama, being a Millionaire, have people who do his taxes?

    So if there is an error in the many figures on his return, he did it, right?
     
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    Actually, even though you pay someone else to prepare your tax return you are still responsible.

    You also seem to miss the fact that both Obama and his wife are lawyers.

    You also seem to miss the fact that Obama is a politician.

    He should know that political contributions are not tax deductible.

    His tax return was not all that complicated.
     
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    How would we know how complicated his tax return is?
     
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    It appears that both parties have people in them that are corrupt...

    Legislator fails to make required disclosures

    Posted by LegiStorm on Monday, July 21, 2008
    A congressman, Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-Md.), says he will be amending his personal financial disclosure after a local newspaper, the Frederick News-Post, reported that he failed to disclose about $1 million in real estate sales as well as real estate loans he provided.
    The congressman called it a simple oversight due to inattention and confusion over several properties. "Nothing sinister, not trying to hide anything," he told the News-Post.
    We expect that with the greater availability of financial disclosures of both members and staff, which LegiStorm put online for the first time this year, more such disclosures are likely.
     
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    Apples and oranges.

    Obama and Biden are the ones talking about paying your "fair" share of taxes.

    Unallowable deductions on a tax return reduce the calculated tax below the "legal" share - let alone the "fair" share.
     
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    No, it's not.. They are all corrupt and the more we try to point one group out that is "worse" than the other we get caught in the trap...

    Members in BOTH parties have done more then their fair share of "funny taxes". It doesn't matter who is talking about it, when you cheat you're gonna get caught.. and people on both parties have gotten caught with their pants down....

    The sooner we open our eyes and see that both parties are bad, then and only then will We the People start to take back our country.

    BTW, I don't know you so I will just tell you, I am not a supporter of Obama or McCain. Just trying to point out that both parties are bad apples...
     
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    While you are right about the corruption and bad taxes on both sides that is another subject separate from this thread. This is about Obiden claiming that paying taxes is patriotic and that wealthy people should pay a greater percentage because that is perceived as being a "fair share" and Obama avoiding his "fair share". All the unpaid taxes on the republican side doesn't take away from that.
     
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    It became part of this thread when it was inferred that Republicans don't cheats on their taxes and it's only the Democrats that do it......


    It doesn't help either.... Looking to one side pointing fingers when both sides are doing it isn't going to get us anywhere... We need real change.. I find it very hard to believe that in this great country this (the people we always get stuck with) is the best we can come up with to vote for... :BangHead:
     
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    I'm sorry what post was that?


    Again that isn't the subject of this thread.
     
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    I'm also wondering what post gave you that idea.

    Also financial disclosures and tax returns are not the same thing.

    Like I said apples and oranges.
     
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  18. JamieinNH

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    It started with post 2 and ended with post 5..... Post 5 asked for an example which I gave.

    Yeah, I have seen this line alot in the pro McCain threads of late... I am sure the McCain supporters never interject posts that are not on topic in a thread. :rolleyes:

    ALL politicans are corrupt (that includes Obama).... I mean I don't want to exclude him as this topic is about Obama.. :thumbs:
     
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  19. Revmitchell

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    No one implied anything of the sort and you know it. In fact those posts are so far from any sort of implication that you have falsely accused them.
     
    #19 Revmitchell, Sep 19, 2008
  20. JamieinNH

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    ok, if that is what you want to believe...

    Either way, I know you're a McCain supporter (Republican) so you're not likely to look down on Republicans that bend the rules like this...

    My point wasn't to change anyone's mind, just show that corruption is present in BOTH parties... I am done that so I am finish with this thread.
     
    #20 JamieinNH, Sep 19, 2008
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