Dietary laws

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  1. dawna marie

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    what are your thoughts on clean and unclean meats of the Bible .

    I have been reading Joyce Rogers book that goes into clean and unclean meats its called the Bibles seven secrets to Healthy Eating I will see if I can find a link where you can get this book if you are interested
     
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    Not being under the Law we needn't keep the dietary rules for sanctification, but good health... Why not?


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    Shellfish makes me gag when I think of what they've been created to do. Acting as filters. Crabs, shrimp, lobsters; all eating unspeakable things from the ocean depths.... I think I'm gonna hurl...

    How 'bout a crab cake! Blah!!
     
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    [​IMG] Gershom [​IMG]

    What do you think a chicken eats? Or a steer or a hog?

    I agree we no longer need to keep the dietary laws, but I think we are required to eat what keeps our bodies healthy.

    §ue
     
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    I don't know. I hate to think of it, actually. Don't they inject them with steroids or something? I think I've heard that somewhere.

    When I was a kid, one time we had rabbit stew. I can still taste it. Rancid! It was awful.
     
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    Never met a shrimp or lobster or crab that I didn't like. Never found one injected with hormones or steroids, either.

    BTW, Noah, about 1100 years before Moses, took 7 clean and 2 unclean pairs of animals into the Ark. This indicates the clean/unclean distinction predates the Mosaic Law.
     
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    Don't get hung up on old law when there's a new covenant. But when health is concerned always take good advice.

    It's so much easier to put stock into a preacher's words when he's physically fit. Fat ones seem to lack control over their own fleshly desires.

    They don't inject the chickens; they feed steroids to them, as they do beef, and dairy cattle.
     
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    Thank God for the new covenant! I mean, what would I do without my bacon and sausage, pork chops, catfish, shrimp, lobster, crab?

    There are those who still try to live the Law (Seventh Day Adventists come to mind). Most of them that I know live by the dietary restrictions of the OT, or are vegetarians (yech). If asked, they will tell you that you must live by the Law. But when I ask them when was the last time you sacrificed a sheep or goat for the remission of your sins, they suddenly get really quiet.

    Wonder why?

    In Christ,
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    Trotter, if the being we know as Jesus Christ created the very atoms that make up the material of this universe and fit those atoms into a variety of patterns which form those materials, I would say that He, who also designed our bodies from the atom up, would know what is and what is not healthy for our bodies. When he says that an animal is unfit to eat, I tend to take His word for it. We might not can scientifically prove at this time the consequences of eating pork (besides the obvious), but that doesn't mean that it is good for us. This isn't a spiritual matter, it is a health issue. I don't see why Christians automatically throw out unclean meats as a Old Covanent issue. I mean, God told the Israelites to put a guardrail around their roofs...so people wouldn't fall and get hurt. God told the Israelites to wash after handling the dead....so as not to contract and spread disease. He taught them the method of quarantining the sick....all these are common sense health and safety issues. Why throw them out? God gave them for our benefit.
    Of course, when you refrain from stealing, you are living the Law, whether you like it or not.
     
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    Jesus fulfilled the requirments of the law, to say otherwise is to deny God's grace.
     
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    If you are replying to my post donna, then you did not get the point. It is a health issue, not a spiritual issue, or a sin, or defilement, etc.
     
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    A preacher was asked to say the blessing once where a hog had been roasted. He prayed "Lord bless this which you have already cursed&gt;?"
     
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    Because it became optional…

    Acts 10
    9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
    10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
    11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
    12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
    13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
    14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
    15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
    Not exactly…

    Galatians 5
    16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
    17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
    18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

    Christians ought not to steal because they are led of the Spirit and not because they are constrained by the Law.

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    Some of the health concerns could have been based on the sanitary conditions of the time. Meat processing today is far superior to that in Biblical times.
     
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    Even if the issue is health or Believers would view all meat as acceptable. Is there a precedent by Paul and Peter, which should be advocated to go the clean/unclean route when desiring to witness to Jews or Muslims or others who would not even give you a second glance if you were eating pork etc.
     
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    When you are a follower of Jesus, everything is a spiritual issue.
    Show scripture that supposrts this statement.
     
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    When I'm in the company of Muslims, I eat Muslim food. When I'm in the company of Jews, I eat Jewish food.

    There's no such thing as "Christian" food. The only restriction is to refrain from food offerred to idols. Since Muslims and Jews don't use food as offerings, this is a non-issue.
     
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    Methinks thou hast on the head the nail hit!
     
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    Really? I guess you don't see the obvious. Go take a shot of iodine if you don't agree.

    1 Cor 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

    Notice God understands the difference between body and spirit. So you see, donnA, we are to watch our health physically as well as spiritually.
     

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