Discretion in sentencing sex offenders

Apparently, the law disagrees with you. Again, if you don't like the law, then work to change it just as I am doing with the idiotic law that allows judges to release repeat offenders back on the streets to brutalize and murder our children.

Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]If we follow unjust laws Joseph, we are no better than the Nazi's.
This application of the law that allows a 16 year old boy to do 5 years and be scarred for life for what is said he did, is totally unacceptable and your continued postings as to it's justice, leaves me very troubled. Christians should be at the forefront in establishing fair laws and rules of citizenship, and that falls far short. This attitude for blindingly following an unjust law is exactly what Hitler had to have for his regime.

 

Joseph, you KNOW how hard I am on crime and should know how I feel about premarital sex but when it's children so close in age, much more could be done to educate and reach these children than lock this boy up for 5 years and label him a sex offender! His whole life is ruined over something that is sin but not rape.

BTW..... the boys parents went back to court to ask for leniency and were refused. A 17 year old in our church stabbed his step father 7 times with a steak knife when the step father told him to go cut the grass or he'd send the girlfriend home, and got 'treatment' but no jail time.

 

Teenage Pregnancies, ages 15-17 (Rate per 1000) Carroll County and GA The top number is my county. The second number is state of Georgia.

1999 54.8
50.3

2000
54.6
47.3

2001 47.9
43.8

2002 56.1
42.0

2003 46.6
40.1


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PREGNANCIES Teenage Pregnancies, ages 15-17 (Actual Numbers) Carroll
GA
1999 98
8,443

2000 99
7,985

2001 85
7,536

2002 100
7,374

2003 84
7,156

 

The relevance is to show how MANY 15 year olds in Georgia are having babies so sex at that age is not uncommon. Doesn't make it right but doesn't make it rape either.

 

Well Joseph, If they let ME make the laws, sex outside of marriage and adultery would be a capital offense but they're not asking me.

Can you not see where these kids, children, have learned such behavior because of generations of mothers having babies at 14 or 15 and babies with many men? Even tho I would be very angry, unless the daughter was forced or more than a few months younger, etc., I think I'd have not pressed charges but gotten the kids counseling at church and never left them alone again.

 

There is no such thing as consensual rape.

RAPE:

The crime of forcing another person to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse.

Abusive or improper treatment; violation: a rape of justice.

To force (another person) to submit to sex acts, especially sexual intercourse; commit rape on.

 

So, a 15 YO boy and a 16 YO girl have consenusal sex. Is the girl also guilty of rape Joseph? And do you even see that whatever the age of consent is under the law, that there is nothing magic about a birthday?

 

Yes he should have been executed when he raped the first child. At the 'tender' age of 16'

From Duncan's blog:

"I have decided to give up on trying to convince people that I am a real person, with honest and good intentions, not some evil monster they should be afraid of," he wrote last year.
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The entries include excerpts from a book he said he was writing based on his conviction at age 16 in Tacoma, Wash., of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy at gunpoint. He documents his nightmares, his anger over serving 20 days past his 20-year prison sentence, his difficulty making friends and dating, and diatribes against police checking on his whereabouts and confiscating his computer and digital camera to check for child pornography images.

Link

 

I don't know where you grew up, but I wasn't having sex at 8. You talk as if this is normal. What kind of sick, twisted world did you grow up in?
Joseph Botwinick </font>[/QUOTE]The same kind of sick, twisted world you grew up in, Joseph. It is not "normal", but it happens. Lots of kids do the exploratory, "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" thing. By acting as if natural curiosity is criminal, you warp the innocence of children, who merely need a redirection of their inquisitiveness.

BTW, I am in no way relating my childhood, so don't even go there. Sheesh!

 

That's assuming that every boy becomes wise on his 16th birthday and every girl shy her 16th birthday is too stupid and weak to say no.

This was not rape. Had he been 18.... YEP

 

An 8 year old who rapes doesn't need prison. He needs psychiatric help. Lock him up and throw away the key is not the answer. Eight is too young to give consent; it is also too young to understand the ramifications of intercourse, coerced or not. If I understand you correctly, you think if an 8 year old boy and an 8 year old girl somehow have intercourse, then the boy is a criminal, even if they both were in on it. Am i mistating your position? If he is a criminal, is the girl also a criminal if it was a mutual decision? Should she be locked up as well?