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It is impossible for God to tempt one to sin, to entice, to cause oneto sin, as per James, correct?

 

Per James, sure. Per other parts of the Bible? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

(I don't believe the Bible is inerrant or infallible, in case you are wondering.)

 

So you don't believe that God can creat such a Bible then?

 

It's not a matter of ability but of history. Did it happen or not? Almost all on the BB would say it did. I wouldn't.

 

Why not? What is your main objection to it?

 

I'm not intending to start a debate, but I believe that the Bible has contradictions within its pages. It's mostly consistent but not entirely so.

 

What we have here is a person who loves himself and thinks he's a god of his domain. Nothing could be said or done to dissuade you from your belief. I only point you to the great book by Dr Seuss whereby I dub you...Yertle.

Good day king of the pond.

 

I hope your bluster makes you feel better about yourself.

 

Did I hurt your feelings, Yertle?

 

No, I had plenty of your surplus pompous attitude lying around, so it could protect me from that.

But I've been meaning to ask, Mr. Collins, how exactly is Lady Catherine de Bourgh doing these days?

 

Woulyo mind givin to us some of those in he Bible?

 

That would end up starting a debate on here, which is not my intention.

A quick google search would turn up plenty of websites with lists. Those lists will all be flawed, and I disagree with usually 50%+ of the supposed contradictions listed. But they would contain some that I believe are genuine contradictions.

I could be wrong about any or all of them, but I that's where I stand now.

It's not just contradictions, though. I also have some issues with things like Saul's killing of the Amalekites at God's command. That's not a textual contradiction, but it does create thorny issues in that it involves God's commanding humans to kill young children.

The list could go on and on, but that's not what I'm seeking to do.

My main concern here is to avoid trying to use various texts to reinforce a synthesized theology if the texts are actually more diverse than the theological system would suppose them to be.

 

Understand your concerns, but we need to make surethat the God we worship is the same one as in the Bible itself, and if we can agree that God cannot sin in any of is ways, that woul answer your concerns on many isses!

 

By definition, the Christian God cannot sin. He would really have no one to sin against and no external standard to violate.

However, I don't think the Bible consistently approaches similar concepts.

Can God cause others to sin? I think the Bible says he can. Can God desire for sin to occur? I believe the Bible says he does in some cases.

That creates theological issues.

 

That woul be due to you not accepting fully the truth that he cannot sn, nor cause others to sin....

 

I don't think all of the biblical authors agreed on the causation issue.

 

Think that they all did, but have to remember thaht the Lord used each person to express that in thir own way and style!

 

You're operating from the a priori assumption that the Bible is inerrant and infallible. All things therefore must be consistent, so any number of explanations (some better than others) come up to try to defend the proposition.

Without the a priori assumption, it's far easier to come to an alternative conclusion.

 

Do you think that those errors affect majr doctrines, such as Jesus is God, died for sins, rose again??