There is a reoccuring habit among many of the posters that contributes to simply dishonest handling of the scriptures. I call it ESCAPISM. It is the habit of FLEEING the immediate context of any given text IF the facts of the immediate context condemn their intepretation. This turns into an endless cycle because when you follow them to where they escape they do the exact same thing again when the immediate context condemns their interpretation of the text they fled to. Proper exegesis deals and defines a text by its immediate context FIRST and only when the immediate context does not provide SUFFICIENT data to do that, then and only then do we then proceed to a WIDER Biblical context where the same subject matter is discussed. If this principle is not followed, then what follows is a never ending JUMP and PIT cycle or what I call ESCAPISM so that no context is fairly dealt with. These same posters practice other eisgetical methods such as pitting scripture against scripture, pitting parables/spiritualizations against precepts and principles. These things are the NORM for a few on this forum and they know who they are.