Dispensational Intercalation

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  1. Jope

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    Why are doctrines of the Lord so vastly ignored if they are not referring to another dispensation?
    Namely,

    • Imposing on an individual an exceeding of the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees (Matt. 5:20),
    • Mosaic altar doctrine (Matt. 5:23-24, Matt. 8:4),
    • Plucking out an eye, cutting off a hand, (Matt. 5:29-30),
    • Enduring to the end to be saved (Matt. 10:22),
    • If taking present day missionary-ing into mind (as some will apply the following Matthew chapter 10), going only to Israel (Matt. 10:5-6),
    And,

    "How can Christians who according to John 10:28 are safe in Christ be in danger of the hell fire mentioned in Matt. 5:22, Matt. 5:29-30?"

    Lewis Sperry Chafer,
    Dispensationalism, 4.36​

    Seeing as Matthew 10 has in it the doctrine of the Second Advent of the Lord (Mt. 10:23), how couldn't the present dispensation of grace (not, admittedly by Paul, revealed in ages past) (Eph. 3:1-6) be an intercalation in the calender of the Matthew 10 passage (which includes Christ's Mt. 10:23-second-advent-prophesy)?

    So I say in conclusion in regards to the restoration of this Sermon-on-the-mount doctrine of Christ's mentioned above, with Chafer:

    "Will not the exalted demands of the Sermon on the Mount be more easily obeyed when earthly conditions are changed, as they will be? The Church will be removed and Israel advanced to a position above all the nations of the earth with Jehovah's Law written in their hearts and the Spirit poured out on all flesh."

    Lewis Sperry Chafer,
    Dispensationalism, 4.36​

    ...And will leave you with another question:

    How come Christ was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matt. 15:24) (Paul attesting to this as well, Rom. 15:8), while Paul's doctrine was to "all the Gentiles" (2 Tim 4:17) ?​
     
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    Dispensationalism was only invented in the middle 1800's by John Nelson Darby thus should be no one's null position.

    Dallas Theo. was a Plymouth Brethern school from the start and probably still is. I have read several books by Chafer and they don't compute.
     
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    I disagree, :)

    Dispensationalism was not invented by Darby.

    Peter was a dispensationalist (he shows this in 2 Peter 3:3-4 where he shows that it is wrong to say that "all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation"). Augustine was into dispensationalism, so were the early fathers:

    "The term anno Domini is intensely dispensational in itself and the familiar dictum attributed to Augustine (354-430, A.D.), 'Distinguish the ages and the Scriptures harmonize,' could hardly be considered modern. Until the distortive spiritualizing method of interpretation was introduced by the scholars of the Alexandrian School there was no formulated opposition to the simple belief in and understanding of all that the Sacred Text implies. Abundant evidence for this statement may be drawn from the works of the early fathers, even going back to the Didache, which evidence establishes the fact that Chiliasm, with those dispensational divisions which belong to it, was the orthodox faith of the early church and was far from the heresy that some writers represent it to have been."
    Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism, 1.2​

    In Daniel we see dispensationalism (Dan. 2:21), and in Acts we see the dispensational grid set in the mind of God (Acts 1:7).

    "Those who pursue an idealism regarding the unity and continuity of the Bible, which idealism is built upon and sustained only by occasional or accidental similarities, must, if sincere, face the problems their method of interpretation generates."

    Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism, ch. 5.​

    (Some such problems as I have shown in the OP).
     
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    In Augustine's time "dispensation" meant "age" as in the "the middle ages" of "the industrial age," simply a handy way to divide history into chunks. It had nothing in particular to do with theology.
     
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    Paul wrote about a dispensation being given to him, and he mentions a future dispensation (Eph 3:2, Eph. 1:10), so it has much to do with theology. ;)

    Augustine's dictum mentions "scriptures", not "history" though (though I will admit that scriptures contain history ;)).

    Darby's seven dispensations are not as modern as people may think. Clement of Alexandria (c.150 – c. 215) makes seven dispensations, and mentions his instructor in theology, the late Dr. Jarvis as expounding a dispensation as identified by 3 things, one being a closing judgment:

    "It is important to observe that “the patriarchal dispensation,” as we too carelessly speak, is pluralized by Clement. He clearly distinguishes the three patriarchal dispensations, as given in Adam, Noah, and Abraham; and then comes the Mosaic. The editor begs to be pardoned for referring to his venerated and gifted father’s division (sustained by Clement’s authority), which he used to insist should be further enlarged so as to subdivide the first and the last, making seven complete, and thus honouring the system of sevens which runs through all Scripture. Thus Adam embraces Paradise, and the first covenant after the fall; and the Christian covenant embraces a millennial period. So that we have (1) Paradise, (2) Adam, (3) Noah (4) Abraham, (5) Moses, (6) Christ (7) a millennial period, preluding the Judgment and the Everlasting Kingdom. My venerated and most erudite instructor in theology, the late Dr. Jarvis, in his Church of the Redeemed, expounds a dispensation as identified by (1) a covenant original or renewed, (2) a sign or sacrament, and (3) a closing judgment. (See pp. 4, 5, and elsewhere in the great work I have named.) Thus (1) the Tree of Life, (2) the institution of sacrifice, (3) the rainbow, (4) circumcision, (5) the ark, (6) the baptismal and eucharistic sacraments, and (7) the same renewed and glorified by the conversion of nations are the symbols. The covenants and the judgments are easily identified, ending with the universal Judgment."​

    Clement of Alexandria (c.150 – c. 215), Book 5, Elucidations, III​
     
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    I am more of a prgressive Dispy, as the older ones at times seemed to imply that God still had the Old Covenant with the jews going on and they were saved under that, while gentiles came under the new!
     
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    >Paul wrote about a dispensation being given to him, and he mentions a future dispensation (Eph 3:2, Eph. 1:10), so it has much to do with theology

    Office or method of administration???????????

    from V\http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=dispensation&searchmode=none

    dispensation (n.)
    late 14c., from O.Fr. despensacion (12c., Mod.Fr. dispensation), or directly from L. dispensationem (nom. dispensatio) "management, charge," from pp. stem of dispensare (see dispense). Theological sense is from the use of the word to translate Gk. oikonomoia "office, method of administration."
     

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