Dixiecrats

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  1. RebelBaptist

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    Thoughts and reflections from the Rebel Baptist, pertaining to the question of Democrat voters in Florida.

    Many in the media and perhaps some on this message board have been trying to figure out how Florida could have had so many registered Democrats who voted Republican this past election. Well, as one of them, I will fill you in on my observations.

    Simply put, I can confirm what they've been saying, that many of us here in the northern counties of Florida are registered Democrats, yet we tend to vote Republican when it comes to national elections, especially the ones for president.

    It goes like this: our families have long been Dixie Democrats, and most of us intend to stay that way. Yet this is not so much a national identity as it is a local one. We stay Democrat for our local races and primaries, for that is the way it is here around these parts. Yet when it comes to national elections, or if we get a candidate who is too liberal for our tastes, then we will vote Republican (though we would prefer not to).

    We feel that the national Democrats (influenced too much by the Northeast and Hollywood crowd) may have forgotten us, but we haven't forgotten who we are: traditional, gun-loving, church-going, truck-driving, BBQ-eating Southern Democrats. So if you run a good ol' boy like Alan Boyd up in our parts, then we will vote for him not just because he is a Democrat, but he is also one of us. But if the party gives us a latte-sipping, gay-pushing, abortion-loving flip-flopper who lives off his wife, disrepects his fellow veterans, and wouldn't know how to eat a plate of ribs if it was put in front of him with instructions, then yes, we are going to vote Republican. At least Bush knows how to eat ribs.

    I know that some here will be offended by what I have said here, but as long as Dixie Democrats are treated with contempt and condensation, then we won't be voting for Blue any time soon. And before anyone calls me an ignorant hick, just let me tell you that I will put my Master's Degree in Political Science (Florida State University) against you any day.


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  2. LadyEagle

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    Hey, as long as you're of the Zell Miller variety & you like BBQ, you are A-OK in my book! [​IMG]
     
  3. The Galatian

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    Ooooh, a Masters degree in political science!

    And from FSU. Amazing.

    Tell me yer on the football coaching staff there, and I'll be impressed.
     
  4. RebelBaptist

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    Sorry, Galatian, but that dog won't hunt.

    Rebel [&gt;&lt;]
     
  5. Scott J

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    I came out of the same mold RB.

    My family on both sides was Democratic since there was a Democratic Party. One of my ancestors, William Hooper, signed the Declaration of Independence.

    However, I have given up on the Democratic Party altogether. The extreme left wing has co-opted the party from top to bottom. In either '96 or '00, the Democratic governor from PA was scheduled to speak at their convention. He was cancelled once his pro-life views became public.

    The Dems were once the party of strict constitutional constructionism... including states rights (10th Amendment). Though pointed to as a hero, FDR sealed the departure from the party's true roots of libertarianism through his gov't activism. Since then they have become progressively more socialistic and culturally liberal.

    I didn't leave them. They left me.
     
  6. The Galatian

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    (rebel attempts to impress us with his political science MA from FSU)

    Barbarian observes:
    Tell me yer on the football coaching staff there, and I'll be impressed.

    Well, maybe not the absolute best this year. But it's still a lot better than a polysci master's from FSU.
     
  7. RebelBaptist

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    Galatian,

    You have insulted my university and my heritage.

    I will not forget this insult.

    Rebel [&gt;&lt;] :mad:
     
  8. The Galatian

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    Your heritage is political science? :eek: Or are you talking about football? You aren't being very clear.

    My undergraduate years were at Iowa State. Our football program was so bad, everyone insulted it.

    So I can't really feel much empathy for you at this point.
     
  9. Major B

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    Rebel, I can put away some ribs. When I eat them, I eat all the meat and crack the bones to suck out the marrow!

    Oh, to get back to the serious part of what Rebel was saying, I echo most of it. The West Kentucky congressional district where I live is so Democratic that GOP candidates don't even run for local office. However, our conservative GOP congressman just was elected to his sixth term with only token opposition. We have taken the state senate and are closing in on the state assembly. One of our state senators switched parties to the GOP four years ago because of insults from the national leadership. The national Democratic leadership has not helped themselves since the election by portraying us as ignorant rednecks because we don't go along with their wacky social agenda, and because we would not vote for their boy. Though I have been GOP for several years now, I am not comfortable there--I'm just a lot less comfortable among the Demo leadership.
     
  10. mozier

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    Hey Galatian,

    Just to clue you in, you insulted Rebel and have offended him. If you are any kind of Christian, you will apologize.

    mozier

    [ November 16, 2004, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: Gina L ]
     
  11. Daisy

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    This here would have been an admirable place to stop. You've explained nicely so far, although I feel that the Northeast can rarely be too influential ;) .

    What's wrong with latte? Strong coffee with hot milk, what's not to like? Or do you thing it ought to be slurped rather than sipped?

    I didn't see Kerry pushing any gays - I think he has better manners than that. I never heard him to love abortion either. Far from living off his wife, he has always worked. Do you object to a woman having her own money or to making more than her husband? What makes you think Kerry doesn't know how to eat ribs?

    Really, where in the world do you get these things? Maybe it's spouting these things that gets you called names. While gay-rights and abortion are important these other things, besides being pure rubbish...well, being silly and untrue should be enough.

    Well, that's what counts! Just keep the pretzels away from him.

    Ok, but who has treated you all with either contempt or "condensation" (hey, yer all wet!)?

    You know, the odd thing is that no one here has called you an "ignorant hick", yet, so you call yourself that and pretend that we have. That's an interesting technique - attack yourself and claim victimhood. :rolleyes:

    Did they teach you slanderous rhetoric as part of your course in poly sci? You seem to have mastered the art.
     
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    Good one Daisy!

    Score Daisy 1 RebelBaptist 0
     
  13. The Galatian

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    Mozier on what it means to be a Christian:
    Believe it or not, that's not what being a Christian is all about. It's not about being politically correct.

    Maybe it's time to go back and learn what being a Christian really entails.
     
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    Brother, that is exactly what part of being a good Christian entails. It is obvious that you have offended a brother in Christ, and the biblically correct thing to do would be to apologize for the condescending remark.

    While I doubt the remark was really insulting towards RebelBaptists heritage, as he points out, it was a rather cheap jab at the degree he has attained, as well as the university he attained it from. When you do that you are criticizing all of the hard work and studies that went into getting that degree. I know from experience, when someone belittles your work and your degree, it's as if they have decided that the work required to achieve that was not up to par with what everyone else does.

    Galatian, it may not seem like much of an insult, but it's an insult nonetheless, and we are commanded by scripture to ask forgiveness when we've offended a brother.

    As for the original post, I agree with the proposal that southern Democrats are still, for the most part, not the same as their northeastern and far western cousins. This is especially true of the older generation of Dems, say age 60 and upwards. Those who lived through the days of the Depression and World War II saw what the Democrats used to be, and what Mama and Daddy stood for, and yearn to be that party again. Unfortunately, I'm of the mindset that it just ain't gonna happen.

    If the Republican party doesn't do some self evaluating pretty soon, it will happen to us as well. It seems like both parties have just about dropped truly socially conservative Americans from their list of pundits. We're being left behind and it's really sad to watch, especially from our side.

    BTW, I'm of the crowd that would be a Democrat if this was the 1930's or further back. That Democratic Party was my party. The two parties now are shells of their former selves, but of the two the Republicans are still the best choice...for now.

    God Bless. Bro. James
     
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    Personally. I think that you and many others have been deceived by G.W. Bush. Abortions have actually increased during the last four years and Bush has increased federal funding for them. He is not against abortions in every case (not for rape and incest or when the life of the mother is endangered). He's not really a Texan having spent his formative years in the Northeast and having gone to Ivy League colleges (Yale and Harvard). There are serious questions about whether he really fulfilled his military obligation in a National Guard role he only got through his father's influence. (He jumped ahead of a couple of hundred men on a waiting list.)

    His position is that he's for the Constitutional amendment against gay marriage but believes that states should decide about whether to allow gay civil unions.

    I don't consider him to be a true Christian based on remarks he made in a London press conference and in an ABC News interview about Christians and Muslims worshipping the same god and about there being many ways to eternal life only one of which is through Jesus Christ.

    http://www.wherethetruthhurts.org/tractsbooksread.php?w=59

    http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3114.html

    http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/elections/article.adp?id=20041026095909990008)

    So, you can eat your ribs (I love them too) and drive your trucks but please look into a little more what your candidate really stands for next time rather than just following the herd.

    BTW I grew up in the South too and lived half of my life there but I ventured out to CA to get my Masters degree from STANFORD.
     
  16. The Galatian

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    No kidding? I got mine from USC. (no, not the University of South Carolina)

    I guess it was just too amusing that our friend thought to impress us with a masters degree in poly sci from Florida state.

    To Dixie,if it ruffled your feathers, I'm sorry I made light of your (degree? University?)

    I took a look at the top 100 poly sci schools, and the closest thing I got to Florida was LSU or the University of Georgia.

    FSU is still right up there in football, though. But not as high as USC, and USC is ranked among the best 100 political science schools (71)in the world.

    I guess that the point is, having a number of degrees is better utilized for applying the undertanding, than for bragging. Couldn't avoid the little brag above, sorry.
     
  17. StraightAndNarrow

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    My undergraduate degree was from a school a little closer to home, North Carolina State (both degrees in Engineering). As I've gotten older I've felt a lot closer to State than to Stanford. In fact, rather than brag I usually say I "got my union card" out there.
     
  18. The Galatian

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    Still, Stanford is worth bragging about. I got mine in Systems, and there were a lot of engineers in it.

    Some of the courses also had some MBA guys. They were entertaining. We used to laugh about how they enhanced the curve.
     
  19. mozier

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    Galatian,

    If you offer a gift at the altar, then realize that your brother has something against you, then leave your gift at the altar, reconcile with your brother, then come back and offer your gift.

    That, Galatian, is being a Christian. Apologize to Rebel. You too, Daisy.

    I still think you are an arrogant jerk, Galatian. You, Daisy, I cannot say it on this board.


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  20. The Galatian

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    Actually, I did say I was sorry for turning his crank a little.

    I don't mind you insulting me, but I would think that a Christian would not insinuate what you did to Daisy.

    If you don't think I'm an "arrogant jerk" for saying so.

    I don't know of anything in the Bible that says you don't have to be a gentleman.
     

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