Featured Do Christians Show Favoritism Towards Themselves?

Well I think you are probably aware that it is against the BB rules for you to question whether or not I'm a Christian.

Most of you disagree with me because most of you are just wrong. It's the same discussion we had back during the election cycle. So many on here truly believe they are correct but the things yall are so adamant about are in direct contradiction to what Scripture says.

And some are adamant about the conservative viewpoint when true Biblical conservatism holds to what the word says and not the conservative viewpoint.

I am aware of this. Christians have been put to death too. But we have not mentioned whether or not anyone was saved. It doesn't matter that there are more unrepentant sinners. You're STILL guilty of breaking the same law. If GOD is meting out the death judgment its one thing. But sinful men are passing the judgment.

We are all guilty of breaking the same law and God HAS NOT given His directive for equally sinful men to kill other equally sinful men.

Just as He tells us to remove the plank from our eye FIRST and then we'll see to tell our brother to remove the speck from his eye, He doesn't expect us to judge hypocritically and thus it doesn't matter which boat anyone is in in this instance.

So if a murderer is due death by man's judgment, then in accordance with Scripture, we should all be due the same death.

We're talking about death.

Now you're being silly. we all know that Christ has already forgiven the Christian for his sins. That has nothing to do with being sanctified into God's likeness and confessing and repenting of sin day to day. It's part of the relationship.

And this is EXACTLY what I mean. Christians act as though the sin that they commit daily is better because it's been forgiven. It's STILL sin.

We don't tell our saved kids "go ahead and lie because you've been forgiven". So why all of a sudden when Scripture makes it clear that anyone who breaks one law is guilty of breaking it all are we now trying to flip the script?

Sin is still called sin, saved or not. And if you break one, even while saved, you're guilty of breaking them all.

And thus if you're gonna be okay with someone being put to death by man's judgment for breaking the same law that we are all guilty of breaking, then it is yet again the utmost of hypocrisy.

Jesus is not putting anyone to death here. This is men making the judgment to put folks to death and Christians agreeing with it when the Bible shows that we are all guilty of the same thing.

So if you agree that man should have the right to kill another because of his sin, then you should also believe that you are due the same thing BIBLICALLY.

And if we are loving our neighbors as ourselves, I don't know too many of us who think we should be killed for telling a lie. But in accordance with what Scripture says, you break one, you've broken them all.

So folks need to come down this high horse of wanting to condemn folks to death when Scripture makes clear they have not committed any sin that we all are guilty of committing.

 

I haven't put anyone on equal footing. I put your SIN on equal footing because Scripture does.

And THAT is what you keep missing. You're guilty of breaking the same law as is the unforgiven sinner.

So unless you're putting yourself up for death, stop trying to make it okay to put "the really bad people" up for death by the directive of MEN and not God.

 

How have I failed to see THAT? THAT is what I have been saying. GOD can make a judgment for death. We cannot and He is NOT giving His directive the way that HE did with Moses, Joshua, and others for us to do so.

That's a bunch of crazy and inconsistent with His word. :laugh:Those in the state are guilty of breaking the same law. The taking of life is to be meted out by GOD, not man.

Where do we see God giving His blessing in the NT for us to take the life of someone who is breaking the same law that we break? He did again, through the Moses's and Joshuas of their day. But there is no picture of Him speaking to man and giving Him such a directive post ascension of Jesus. Rather we see a picture of forgiving and mercy perhaps because we are all guilty of breaking the same law.

If our punishment for breaking that law is not death, why are we okay with it being death for someone else?

I understand that in man's system different crimes have different consequences. But it BIBLICALLY makes no sense, for those who have been saved from death for the breaking of GOD's Law, to be okay with putting to death someone else who breaks the same law.

Love your neighbor as YOURSELF.

It is so incredibly selfish of us to be okay with a death sentence for breaking the law when we, above all others, should understand that we have broken the same law and have been shown mercy.

 

I didn't say society did not judge crime. We obviously do. I am saying that if Christians are BIBLICALLY applying Scripture to their worldview, they should be anti-death penalty. There shouldn't be any advocating of punishment unto death by a Christian who has been saved from the penalty of breaking the same law.

If someone is guilty of breaking the same law that you break and you're not getting the death penalty, why would you be okay with them getting the death penalty?

Love your neighbor as yourself.

 

Yes I know. And the directive to, no pun intended, execute that judgment always came from Him to someone else when it was righteously done. I don't see any instances in the NT where He gave that directive to the Gentiles.

In other words, God always gave the order to kill. Now it's man usurping God's authority of life and death and choosing to take a life because we believe that is the just punishment. But if we're all guilty of breaking the same law, how are we okay with life for ourselves but death for someone else who broke the same law?

I know. But GOD always gave the command. There's no history of Him doing that in the NT with the Gentiles because it looks as though He wants mercy to triumph over judgment. And what better way to get people to see that than to make known that if you break one law, you have broken them all. And thus we are all equally guilty.

So in treating your neighbor as yourself, would you recommend death for your trespasses as they are the same according to Scripture?

This is not an issue of taxpayer dollars. This is an issue of right and wrong. The money is a non-issue.

Scripture says 11 For he who said, “You shall not commit adultery,” also said, “You shall not murder.”[c] If you do not commit adultery but do commit murder, you have become a lawbreaker. James 2:11

If we break one, we've broken them all. SO do we advocate the death penalty for ourselves? Or do we unrighteously only advocate it for those whom we feel have committed the "worst" sins?

 

And what crime might that be? According to Scripture, if you break one law, you've broken them all. So what crime would you be able to commit, that BIBLICALLY, wouldn't demand the death penalty too?

 

This is not an issue of the benefits to our country. This is about obedience to God's word.

Why do so many Christians seemingly pick on the homosexuals and the addicts? Because we think their sin is the worst of the worst. But Scripture says if you have broken one, you have broken them all.

That means if I tell a lie, I'm also guilty of breaking the whole of the law which is punishable by death. So how have we decided that only certain sins are worthy of death when Scripture shows them all to be worthy of death?

If we are all guilty of breaking the totality of the law with even one sin, then it serves to reason that we would be more loving in dealing with those whom we believe have the worst sins.

Scripturally, we're all in the same boat.

 

I'm not saying that all sins are equal. I'm referencing the totality of the law and what Scripture says. If you break one, you've broken it all and thus are as worthy of death as is the murderer, adulterer, homosexual offender, etc.

It is in that regard that every saved person should default to mercy as mercy has been given.

Why do some Christians treat addicts so poorly? Because they think the addicts sin is worse.
Why do some Christians treat the abortionists so poorly? Because they think the abortionist's sin is worse.
Why do some Christians treat the homosexual offender so poorly? Because they think the homosexual offender's sin is worse.
Why do some Christians treat the murderer so poorly? Because they think the murder's sin is worse.

We are ALL guilty of breaking the same law as Scripture points out. So how can we demand death for anyone who is no more guilty of breaking God's law than we all are?

 

No HE doesn't. God is HOLY. Every sin is punishable by the same death.

Man treats them differently but God does not. An unforgiven lie will send you to hell just as an unforgiven murder will because they are all a transgression of the whole law

It's not my reasoning. It's God's word. And yes , an unforgiven driving 5 over merits the same punishment from GOD that would be due an unforgiven Hitler.

There is no discrimination in God. Sin is sin .