Do people exist today who are related to Jesus Christ?

I think you misunderstand. Jesus' Incarnation did not end at the Ascension. It is for eternity.

Karen

 

If it was her egg, Jesus would have been born a sinner as Mary was a sinner. The entire conception was from the Holy Spirit.

 

Not so, webdog. As I recall, the sin is passed through the father.

MR

 

I had to look it up...
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Romans 5:12
Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men..
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Both Adam and Eve sinned but the Bible tells us that sin entered through the man and that the seed of the woman would save us.

Why it is this way I don't know.

But it is.

MR

 

Just because sin ENTERED the world through the man does not mean it CONTINUES only via the man. Is there scripture to indicate that this is the case?

 

I'm an addopted son of God making me addopted brother of Jesus. Does that count?

 

You are attempting to prove your argument from a negative.

I could use the same tactic in saying that there is no scripture to indicate that this is NOT the case.

I could say whatever I want about anything the Bible does not clearly address based on either argument and could not be proven wrong.

So, do you have any scripture to prove that Mary's egg was not used?

See my point?


MR

 

No, I don't see your point.

I don't have an argument to prove because I didn't make a statement I need to defend. You made POSITIVE statement "the sin is passed through the father." I simply pointed out that ENTERING the world is not the same as being PASSED down.

I fully understand the logical problem of proving, or disproving, a negative. If something didn't happen it didn't leave evidence but the lack of evidence doesn't prove it didn't happen because it could have happened without leaving evidence. In this case lack of evidence would be the lack of scripture, and I'm not sure that the case. But that's not the immediate issue.

Right now, what I'm asking is for YOU to PROVE the POSITIVE statement that YOU made: "the sin is passed through the father."

 

Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. (Acts 20:28)

How does one interpret this verse?

 

I DID prove it with scripture, Ray.

You want me to prove that this is still true.

A man in our church stated that he did not believe that God communicates with us to day because, when shown scripture to prove it, he said he didn't see anything that said it was still in effect today.

This is what you have done and no, I cannot prove that the Bible is still in effect, only that God said so and there is no scripture to cancel it.

If you believe that God must constantly reaffirm His word else it is no longer valid I cannot disprove you.

MR

 

No, you did not prove your statement "sin is passed through the father."

I don't question that sin entered the world through one man. You don't need to prove that. But, once again, ENTERING and PASSING DOWN are not the same thing.

What you need to prove is your claim that sin is PASSED DOWN only via the male parent and not the female parent.

 

Mary was Jesus mother and Jesus was without sin.

I believe she was a female parent although the Bible does not specifically say so, therefore I cannot prove it.


MR

 

Temper, temper, let's try to hold it down to a rumble and not get too far out of hand. But I got a comment on something Paul of Eugene said that might tie two things together, actually. Concerning which twelve names in the foundation of NJ, wonder if 'Lord Jesus Christ' will be one? Ed

 

Arent we all?
Since well all are from Adam and eve originally we are technically all brothers and sisters..and that includes mary maybe im wrong

 

No, I don't think so, Ed.

Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

This seems to indicate that only the names of the apostles are there.

Aren't we wandering off a bit in the last pages?



MR

 

I was reading somewhere that genetically, no two people are further removed than 16th cousins. I don't know the validity of this statement, so don't hold me to it.

 

Psa 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Job 15:14 What [is] man, that he should be clean? and [he which is] born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Job 25:4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean [that is] born of a woman?

 

I would agree that "mother" and "female parent" are synonymous. My use of both terms was not intended to trick you.

The question still remains, do you have any PROOF for your original statement that started this discussion: "the sin is passed through the father."?