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Featured Do We still have same free will as Adam/Eve had?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Yeshua1, Nov 25, 2013.

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  1. Iconoclast

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    Who said free will exists?
     
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    The subset of all humanity which is complementary with the other subset of all people that says it does not exist.
     
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    Matt 16:25 "25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it."

    Rev 22:17 "17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely."


    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 1 "He came to HIS OWN and HIS OWN received Hm not"


    "God is not WILLING for ANY to perish but for ALL to come to repentance" 2Peter 3
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    What does the calvinist find "missing"? "Whosoever is ZAPPED into Willing".

    "Whosoever is pre-programmed to WILL"

    We all knew that - right?

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    According to Calvinists "The WHOLE World" says there is free will "All men EVERYWHERE" -- because all you need is a couple of people to say free will exists and Calvinists will gladly call that "The WHOLE WORLD".

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    None of these texts say "whosoever WILL NOT" may come and that is the condition of the fallen nature (Rom. 8:7-8) apart from being ZAPPED or what the Scriptures describes as a CREATIVE work of God (2 Cor. 4:6; Eph. 2:10a; Col. 3:10; James 1:18; John 1:13) by divine revelation (Mt. 16:16-17; Gal. 1:15-16; etc.).
     
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