Do you believe Noah's Ark will ever be found

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  1. Thermodynamics

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    Just wondering what the people here think. Will God allow Noah's Ark to be found, or would that be so much proof of the truth of the Bible that it would negate free will?
     
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    Not unless its petrified.
     
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    Could the pitch inside & out have preserved it for many thousands of years? There are examples of ancient wood and even ancient paper being preserved for thousands of years if the conditions were right.
     
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    I guess and Mt. Ararat is up there and pretty cold. It's possible. Do you think it would change anything if it were?
     
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    No I don't. Why, it would give people an object, something they can see, to worship. and as we've already seen with the shroud of Turin, people will worship it, if it were ever found.
    The Holy Spirit, God, is capable all by Himself of proving His existance, who He is, without an object as a sign. He's been doing it for thousands of years, and been successful so far. I suspect He'll continue to be successful doing it His way.
     
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    Are you reading my mind there Thinkingstuff? I was saving this follow-up quesion:

    How would the media and the un-saved public respond to the discovery of the Ark?
     
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    Jesus walked among men in His day and they didn't believe Him then. Finding the ark would not provide any more proof than a boat floated to the top of a mountain and rested there.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Their first reaction would be to say it was something else and then speculate ad infinitum. No one would have "their eyes opened" by it. It would be fun to look at and pitty Noah. But I doubt much would be made of it.
     
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    There is never going to be enough proof for some folks that the Bible is real. The ark being revealed would be nothing more than an interesting side note for some.

    That aside, I just don't know whether it will be uncovered.
     
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    That is exactly right. Scripture is not a matter of a laboratory or scientific proof, it is a matter of faith, given to us by God. If they found the ark of the covenant, and pulled out the commandments and Aaron's rod, unbelievers would say it was a plant. If we had a genuine video of the Creation and the Resurrection, they would still not believe. To believers, finding such an article might be interesting, but would change nothing.

    The real reason the ark is so hard to find is because that is where they stuffed Jimmy Hoffa.
     
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    Some wouldn't beleive it were Noah's ark, how would you prove it were? Some would, as I said, worship it, not the God who told Noah to build it.


    Very true Jim, if they saw God Himself walking the earth and didn't beleive they aren't going to believe by seeing a boat. I do beleive Jesus condemned the need to have signs as proof.
    Faith comes from God, not objects, so far He's done it without proving a thing to anyone.
     
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    Of course Jesus also offered signs as proof. I believe there is a proper mix of faith and reason that we are to apply. I have always said "reason without faith is dead and faith without reason is blind."

    Now I am not saying I need the Ark as proof of the Bible, but I do believe some people might come to faith in Christ as a result of it being found. Of course there are those who would not believe no matter how strong the proof is. Fir the record I think the proof now is very strong if a person is just willing to look at the facts.
     
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    God gives faith, and He does it all by Himself, He doesn't need help.
    Jesus condemned the need of proof, of a sign.
    The facts are in scripture, nothing else is needed.
     
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    It's been nearly 20 years since I've been into this kind of stuff much (we were once active with a creationist group in the Dallas area), but some, at least back then, thought it HAS been found. It's said to be quite inaccessable, which would work both ways - can't get to it to VENERATE it if it is the real thing, but can't get to it to VERIFY if it is the real thing. It is in an area that is guarded closely by the Kurds, and one of the westerners who saw it, if I remember correctly, was brought there by the Kurds as a reward for saving the life of a member of their tribe (or whatever it's called).

    I also recall that this particular arc is now believed to be in 2 pieces due to a heavy snowfall and subsequent avalanche in recent decades.

    It may all be a bunch of bunk - it doesn't really matter that much to me. And I doubt if it would really change minds much anyway.
     
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    Donna, salvation is by faith alone of course, but how can you be sure you have come to the right faith unless you apply reason?

    Christianity is not a non-logical, non-thinking religion. The Bible tells us to "prove all things, hold fast that which is true.
     
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    Back to the ark.

    It seems to my memory that a few years ago some archeologists were searching for and thought they found the location where the ark should have been. Never heard any more about that.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Jim there is a video on it. We had it in the Media Center until it wore out. It was one of those Amazing Facts things.

    I'm sure I've seen a documentary on it too. I think the place it is at is really inaccessible because of the weather. - trying to remember what it had said.
     
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    It has probably been completely crushed by years of shifting ice.
     
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