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Do you believe Noah's Ark will ever be found

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by Thermodynamics, Jan 31, 2009.

  1. preachinjesus

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    I don't know...maybe. Lots of variables out there.

    I appreciate the desire to validate faith with palatable evidences. Living in the shadow Cartesian Modernism there is something about finding "proof" for the hypothesis we have in life. The Noah thing is an important part of the biblical heritage, but not vital. Of course we aren't called to evidence in Christ...but faith in Christ. :)
     
  2. ray Marshall

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    I agree with your answer. It would be worshipped by man and there's enough of that already
     
  3. Jon-Marc

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    I saw a TV program about it being found on a mountain in Turkey in a Russian occupied area, and that the Russians wouldn't let anyone near it. The man who allegedly found it had supposedly gone down into it.
     
  4. John Toppass

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    HUH?
    Even if it was found, how would that negate free will?
     
  5. Joseph M. Smith

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    This whole discussion assumes that the accounts of Genesis concerning the flood and the ark are history in the sense that we today think of history, a record of real-time happenings. But what if they are not that at all, but are parables of human existence, designed to teach us about our vulnerabilities and our rebelliousness, as well as about the grace of a God who wants to seek and to save? I do not need to find a boat to "prove" the truth of that story, because it is not about water and boats and animals: it is about us. It is a sermon rather than a newspaper-style report.
     
  6. Amy.G

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    Jesus quoted Genesis and spoke of Noah as "real-time happenings". There is no reason to think they were just stories.
     
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    And with good reason ... the Bible presents them as real-time happenings. There is no reason to doubt the universal flood of Noah's time.

    That's kind of silly. There is nothing "parabolic" about the story. It is not about man's vulnerability and rebellion. It is not even about a God who wants to seek and save. After all, he destroyed everyone except for eight people (who came out of the ark and promptly went back to sinful ways of living).
     
  8. Jim1999

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    The scope of the flood is open to question without distorting scriptural accounts. A local flood makes more sense, in my mind, in relation to global development and its time frame.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  9. John Toppass

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    I don't know about that when the bible says every living creature every bird that sort of kinda means the whole earth to me. But, I take the Word to mean what it says.
     
  10. Jim1999

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    that would include every living thing in that area. We often speak of specific areas as all inclusive.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  11. webdog

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    People can see many new archaeological finds associated with and validating the Bible, and God allowed them to be found. Why is the ark any different?

    To the OP, I believe on the New Earth it will be discovered, if not sooner.
     
  12. swaimj

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    Jesus offered evidence for an unverifiable ability; the ability to forgive sins by demonstrating a verifiable ability; the ability to heal a lame man. "So that you may know that I have the power to forgive sin, I say to this man "Take up your bed and walk".

    Ultimately, people have to come to Jesus and have their sins forgiven by faith alone. However, God uses evidences to persuade men. While finding the ark would generate objections and protests from most unbelievers, some people would be persuaded of the truth of the Bible and come to faith. I hope they find it. However, there are other evidences that the Bible is true, so my faith is not destroyed if the ark is never found.
     
  13. Jim1999

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    I find it interesting that many of the people exercising time and energy to find biblical artifacts are unbelievers. It was an unbeliever who went to find out the facts about a Jesus that did not exist and came back to write the book, Who Rolled the Stone?

    If only those discoverers find truth, isn't that enough?

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
  14. D.A.S.

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    I've heard all kinds of people claim they've seen it on a mountain in Turkey. I have to believe there is some merit to it since the Turkish government won't let anyone near the mountain today since it became so widely told. Seems an awful big trouble to go to if your not hiding something. Something like a giant boat.
     
  15. LeBuick

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    I know where it is, it's called the Old Ship of Zion and it's landing many of thousands everyday. Most people just don't know where to look.
     
  16. EdSutton

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    FTR, I believe you are here referring to Who Moved the Stone? a 1930 book by 'Frank Morison' which was a pseudonym of the late Albert Henry Ross.

    Who Rolled the Stone
    is a 2006 book subtitled "Meditations & Poems on the Resurrected life" by Joyce C. Stedelbauer.

    Ed
     
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  17. EdSutton

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    "Proved" 'Ark reports' seem to crop up all the time.

    They just never seem to be provable, however.

    Personally, I'm just gonna' ask Noah all about it when I see him, in person. :thumbsup: ;)

    Ed
     
  18. EdSutton

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    'Cute cat.' :thumbsup: :laugh:

    And welcome to the Baptist Board! :wavey:

    Ed
     
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