Documentary said that the story about Herod killing the babies is a legend

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by xdisciplex, Dec 24, 2006.

  1. xdisciplex

    xdisciplex
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2005
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    0
    I just watched something on the discovery channel about Herod and they said that the story with the killing of the babies is a legend and it can only be found in Matthew and in no other historical book. They said that Herod was simply the perfect person for this legend because he was famous for being violent and mad. :confused:
     
  2. Pete

    Pete
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2002
    Messages:
    4,345
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh for a $ every time I saw a "what really happened where the Bible says....." documentalry..... :D
     
  3. Claudia_T

    Claudia_T
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    May 11, 2004
    Messages:
    3,458
    Likes Received:
    0
    they do that all the time. to try to undermine the Bible
     
  4. El_Guero

    El_Guero
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    0
    xdx:

    And a 'disciple' of Christ spreads the 'news' to everyone in hopes for what?

    I pray that you have a Merry Christmas!

    Wayne


     
  5. xdisciplex

    xdisciplex
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2005
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    0
    But they also cannot simply lie, can they?
    Are there other historical documents which prove this story?

    I mean what if these people have no secret agenda against the bible? What if we are too paranoid about this?
    For example if a historian says something about the quran being wrong then most likely muslims say that this historian is simply trying to undermine Islam. Can not everybody say that? Or when you say something against the Scientology beliefs then the Scientologians can say the same and even feel good about it as if this proves that they are right.
     
  6. SBCPreacher

    SBCPreacher
    Expand Collapse
    Active Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2006
    Messages:
    2,764
    Likes Received:
    0
    Who are you going to believe? Secular "historians" or the Bible? Time to make a choice!
     
  7. El_Guero

    El_Guero
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    0
    Preacher

    I reckon that depends upon who we really are . . .

    A disciple of Christ will follow God and His Word.

    A pretender will . . . . follow every wind that blows.

    Merry Christmas!

    Wayne


     
  8. Dustin

    Dustin
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2006
    Messages:
    696
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'll believe the bible on this one since it's God's Word and all. The discovery channel and the history channel aren't really all that credible since as far as Christianity goes, they like to cater to the beliefs of the secular geeks. Richard Dawkins and his toadies, etc. Once the guy on the Digging for the Truth show was investigating the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and he asked the Israeli gude and I quote, "So the these towns might actually have really existed and been destroyed as the Bible says so?" Israeli guide: "Yes, they certainly could have." The also had one on the Ten Commandments and the Reformation of all things. You should have seen the Protestant mobs, it was scary! "Down with the Pope! Down with your idols!" with pitchforks and torches no less. A real knee slapper there!
     
    #8 Dustin, Dec 24, 2006
    Last edited: Dec 24, 2006
  9. Gershom

    Gershom
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2004
    Messages:
    2,030
    Likes Received:
    0
    What is your authority xdisciplex? Do you believe the Word of God? Is it your source?
     
  10. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2001
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    0
    Part of the problem is that the slaughter wouldn't have been as huge an event as we might think. "Only" a dozen or so children were likely murdered.

    It wouldn't, then, have been written down because (a) Herod wouldn't have wanted this to get back to the Caesar, and (b) to the Romans, it was only a few infants in a Judean backwash.

    Remember that when Matthew wrote his Gospel, there were still people around who would have heard about the event. Certainly, people would have been around to refute it if it handn't occurred, and the Gospel would have thus been discredited.

    The History Channel's interesting, and it provokes thought... but I wouldn't rely on it for deep spiritual insight.
     
  11. El_Guero

    El_Guero
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    0
    If that is so, then what do you rely upon "for deep spiritual insight?"

     
  12. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2001
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    0
    Um, is that a serious question?
     
  13. El_Guero

    El_Guero
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    0
    ummmm

    Since the thread is placing the history channel out there in a serious light . . .

    and ummmm . . .

    You wrote as if the history channel might actually contain serious history . . .

    then . . . ummmm . . . yes. I would consider that one of the more serious questions in this thread (IMHO).

     
  14. JamieinNH

    JamieinNH
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2005
    Messages:
    2,277
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have to agree with this post!

    X, It's time to make a choice. Do you believe the Bible or not?

    Jamie
     
  15. tragic_pizza

    tragic_pizza
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2001
    Messages:
    3,395
    Likes Received:
    0
    Niether history or archaeology offer spiritual instruction; that isn't their job.

    History and archaeology can corroborate Biblical texts, it cannot prove their spiritual veracity.

    Spiritual insight is given by the Holy Spirit, not the History Channel.
     
  16. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards
    Expand Collapse
    <img src=/Ed.gif>

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2002
    Messages:
    15,715
    Likes Received:
    0
    This is the best answer to the Opening Post (OP) so far.

    According to secular historians, the Herod mentioned in the Matthew
    account was Herod the Great who, according to them, died in
    4BC. Because 'up to two years' was the death sentence, that means
    the birth of Jesus had to be sometime 6BC to 5BC.
    The fact it was a local (maybe this Herod was boss in Bethelhem
    only?) Harod seems beyond the alleged 'historians' grasp.
    That would make the Bible right and the alleged 'historians' can't
    wrap their mind around that :BangHead:
     
  17. LeBuick

    LeBuick
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2006
    Messages:
    11,537
    Likes Received:
    0
    I thought Josephus also confirmed the story.
     
  18. El_Guero

    El_Guero
    Expand Collapse
    Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2004
    Messages:
    7,714
    Likes Received:
    0
    And all this time . . . I tho't the Bible confirmed it.

    :saint:

     
  19. xdisciplex

    xdisciplex
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2005
    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    0
    I just found an interesting topic at a forum.

    http://www.wvss.com/forumc/viewtopic.php?t=951

    What do you say about this reply here? Is this really possible? This sounds scary. :(

     
  20. LeBuick

    LeBuick
    Expand Collapse
    New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2006
    Messages:
    11,537
    Likes Received:
    0
    :applause: :applause: :tonofbricks:

    You SO RIGHT!
     

Share This Page

Loading...