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Discussion in 'Music Ministry' started by Salty, Sep 1, 2015.
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Honestly, according to his argument, NO music should be played in church.
I do think contemporary music belongs in church as does ancient music. If it is singable, God honoring, Biblical and true, it is worthy to be sung in church.
You beat me to it annsni.
There's nothing in his indictment against the more contemporary music that he doesn't like that can't be also said of any other Christian music that he does like.
I like a whole range of Christian music. And like you say, if it honors the Lord, then it should be allowed in the church.
My 23 year old daughter came up with a good list of requirements for a song for it to be a good worship song. When she gets out of the shower, I'll ask her to send it to me so I can post it.
Or conversely, the title of the article could be, "Should Traditional Music be Allowed in Church" and the text could be the same.
This statement stuck out for me:
If the places where the world congregates to feed their flesh use a certain style of music it would make sense that it is probably worldly music.
If those places started playing hymns such as “The Old Rugged Cross” or “Amazing Grace” the musicians would probably be booed, and many customers would leave. Why? Because the music does not match the setting!
No, it's because they came expecting to hear electric guitars and music with a beat and not hearing hymns being sung. Has nothing to do with the setting.
If you've seen my posts in the "what are you listening to" threads, then you know I enjoy rock music. Secular rock, country, alt.country, Americana, folk, singer-songwriter, R&B, Beach Music, even some New Wave and "cowpunk" is about all I listen to.
But, no, I don't believe CCM or rock music belongs in church. Not because those things are morally wrong, in and of themselves (although, CCM has a lot of theology that's troubling, to say the least), but because it just isn't an appropriate vehicle for the message.
In the same way Bill Withers' "Lovely Day" is a beautiful song, but isn't appropriate for a funeral, CCM just isn't appropriate for a church setting.
By "contemporary" I assume that music somewhat imitative of current pop/rock is what is being referenced. Merely being of recent origin should have little/no bearing on whether the music is appropriate in church. A worshipful hymn like "His Robes For Mine", less than 10 years old, is of thoroughly traditional character and very strong theologically, and it's one among many such recent compositions.
I'm very traditional in my musical tastes - emphasis on "tastes" - but also recognize that there can be "guilt by association." If "Amadeus" was an accurate portrayal of Mozart (it's not) and I lived in 1785, I would not have had his wonderful music in church simply because it was associated closely with a notoriously sinful lifestyle. I also don't use alcohol recreationally, but that does not keep me from loving to hear the beer-drinking J.S. Bach's music in church or anywhere else.
What struck me most was a comment that stated, in essence, "Does the music make you want to kneel & worship - or dance??"
That seems to sum it up for me, but then I'm just an old fogey anyway!:laugh:
Also, when the bass guitars start sounding like ole # 99 coming around the bend and up a steep grade, something inside me just wants to start destroying things; have to get away from that racket muy pronto!!
Well, I know that there are times I just want to dance with great joy in front of God in worship! There are times that I want to kneel. I don't think there is anything wrong with either one.
OK - Here is what my daughter worked on and came up with on her own as a guideline for choosing songs for worship:
Bring back the Gregorian chant!
Now that's real traditional Christian music.
You bet it is. I'm at heart a traditionalist and love the old hymns (not all of them, some of which I find to be theologically unsound or irrelevant) but I am part of a praise team that sings mostly new songs.
And there are many good ones, which are theologically sound, beautiful and worshipful.
But I agree with A's daughter about some things: They must be theologically sound and they should be singable. Unfortunately, many of the new songs are not really singable by congregations, whether because of rhythm, awkward ranges or hard-to-discern melodies. The point of congregational music is to let the congregation sing, not the song leader (dating myself here) or the praise team. If they can't sing it with confidence, it's not worth using. IMO.
Say what you will against the old songs, their structure of verse-chorus-verse-chorus made them relatively easy to learn. If you couldn't get the verses, you surely would get the choruses. Some of the new music -- like that of the Gettys and Stuart Townend -- manages to blend the new with the familiar in a very singable way.
I don't like electric guitars, but I'll get over it. Bad tunes and lyrics: That I can't get over.
:thumbsup:...as long as it is up on PowerPoint.
PowerPoint is so 2000s!!! Ya gotta have ProPresenter!
The last time I was involved in that type of thing was in the late-1980s. Remember the cassette tape? :laugh:
LOL - That was back when we were using a carousel slide projector!
"If it's not in the hymnal, it shouldn't be sung in church" - Blue-haired Granny #3.
"If Fannie Crosby didn't write it, we won't sing it." - Blue Haired Granny #4
How come ya'll skipped blue-haired grannies #1 and #2? :laugh: :laugh: