Does God demand us To seperate from the World, or fellow Christians?

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  1. JesusFan

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    Know that the Lord commands to come from the midst of them and be ye seperate, but is that a command to get out from the World systems, or from other believers who we disagree on some doctrines with?
     
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    The world is contrary to believers. We are to fellowship with believers.
     
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    Agree.

    We are to seperate from heretics and false gosples.

    We should NEVER "shun" or seperate from believers who hold to the true gosple, but have different convictions in some areas than we do.

    God help us if we do.
     
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    Think that this question comes up most in say Independent churches, as seperation goes from not just worldly people, to even believers disagree with!
     
  5. JesusFan

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    I have friends who are Arm/Cal, Gifts cease/continue, even some holding to differing views on eschatology and modes of baptism!!
     
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    The passage you are referring to is about the world. However we re also told to not fellowship with sinning brothers. My guess is that if you obeyed that command you would be setting alone most the tome at the meals and church.

    As to the world the coming out form them does not mean we are not to witness or befriend to them but not take part in their sinful and un-Christ like ways.
     
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    No, the bible states that we are NOT to fellowship with those who cliam to be Christians, yet living in a habiuual, continually sinful lifestyle, and who have gone as far to ignore rebuke of Church discipline, as Paul said shun them who are excommunicated from local Church...

    NOT saying that we should not fellowship over doctrine disagreements, IF holding to real Gospel and real Jesus...

    Also NOT disfellowship with bethren who still sin, as we ALL are in that boat!
    As to the world the coming out form them does not mean we are not to witness or befriend to them but not take part in their sinful and un-Christ like ways.[/QUOTE]
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    The passage you are referring to is about the world. However we re also told to not fellowship with sinning brothers. My guess is that if you obeyed that command you would be setting alone most the tome at the meals and church.

    As to the world the coming out form them does not mean we are not to witness or befriend to them but not take part in their sinful and un-Christ like ways.
     
  9. Tom Bryant

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    This all depends on what kind of fellowship you are talking about? Fellowship within a local church body or all belieers in a given area? I can and do fellowship with the Episcopalian pastor down the road from me who is a charismatic but has trusted Christ as Savior and accepts the Bible as entirely the Word of God? But would he be welcome to become a part of FBC, Osprey? No, that's not what we are. We're neither charismatic nor are we episcopalian in church gov't.

    There are some differences that we can fellowship in spite of but in a local body of Christ, it won't happen.
     
  10. JesusFan

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    You grasped the point!

    God COMMANDS us to engage/fellowship with ALL believers in real gospel/Jesus, do good deeds/pray/support another, BUT God also allows us freedom to dtermine who we will associate with in a local membership assembly setting!
     
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    Yes........
    2 Corinthians 6:14-18
    V.14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
    V.15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
    V.16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    V.17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean [thing]; and I will receive you,
    V.18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

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    Yes...........
    2 Timothy 2:19-21
    V.19 ¶ Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
    V.20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
    V.21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master’s use, [and] prepared unto every good work.

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    1 Corinthians 5:9-11
    V.9 ¶ I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
    V.10 Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
    V.11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
     
  12. Alive in Christ

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    I do, too. They are my brothers and sisters, and I love them. :wavey:

    We dissagree sometimes regarding some issues, but we serve, and proclaim, the same Jesus.
     
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    Especially Pharisees (and maybe only pharisaical people, IMO). If I recall correctly it was only pharisaical people that Jesus separated himself from, that he had harsh words for. Yet, have you EVER heard of a church "disciplining" a person because they were pharisaical? No! Yet, among those that are exhalted and held in high esteem are the pharisaical. Discipline them... ha! they might leave us and take their offerings with them... This is amazing to me!
     

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