Namely, does this hold true of God: #2. God has free will, choice REAL option. Is this where you claim Calvinism can't keep up?? [quote from BR] Well, if what the Arminian means by "choice REAL option" is libertarian free will, then a Calvinist would say no. The key to libertarian freedom is that, according to an Arminian, a person is only morally responsible when there are genuine options; that is the agent could have chose otherwise. God's moral perfection and libertarian free will: Some arminians do believe that libertarian freedom is true in heaven as it is on earth. Therefore, God is not essentially morally perfect, but chooses to be morally perfect--He could have sinned. Since God is everlasting (or eternal), then whatever choice He makes, He makes everlastingly--(which then removes His libertarian freedom in my opinion). But, if one says that God could flip flop back and forth between good and evil, then all notions of ethics and divine immutability are shattered. The Arminian says that if God does not have libertarian freedom, then when one praises Him for being righteous it reduces to mere aesthetic praise, like one would praise a painting. The Arminian says that if God is essentially morally perfect, then He does not have libertarian freedom regarding being able to do otherwise in all moral decisions and is not morally praiseworthy. However, many Arminians would say no that God does not have libertarian freedom because He is essentially morally perfect. This means that God could not have sinned. This means that libertarian freedom, at least for God, is not necessary for moral praise or responsibility. This means that God does not have real choice or options regarding being righteous or sinful. So, does God have choice, real option?