In another thread, which was closed because others were not behaving (please don't carry that over to this thread), Luke made a point about the two wills of God...HERE We have discussed God's prescriptive will (command) versus His decretive will (unchangeable decree) before in this forum, but the question really is about God decreeing something that opposes his command...and more importantly, what exactly is a divine decree. Is a divine decree permissive in nature or determinative? God commands for you not to lie (prescriptive will), but you choose to lie and God brings about a redemptive purpose through your lying (decretive will). Now, is your lying decreed by God in the sense that God determined that you would certainly lie so as to bring about his redemptive purpose, or is your lying decreed by God in the sense that God permitted you to make that choice freely and He worked that sinful choice out for a greater redemptive purpose? Would God determine something to happen that He commanded not to happen and thus break his own command? Or does God permit His commands to be broken freely, but is such a great and knowledgable being that He is able to always work whatever choices we make out to fulfill his decretive will? Put another way, is God bound to determine the move of both sides of the chess board to ensure victory, or is God such a masterful Chessmaster that regardless of what free move his opponent makes He is able to counter it and bring about victory?