Does God love people in hell?

Well, I gave you the entire context, so it couldn't be that, so you must believe he is mistaken, yet you refuse to deal with the quotes and citations he clearly provided to support his views...sounds like you are so set on not be wrong that you are ignoring any argument that might prove you are.

 

We disagree on the atonement, so we will not agree on who He loves. The point being here is while sinners we are enemies of God. This verse shows God loves those who are at enmity with Him, which describes those in Hell. God (who is love) would not require us to love everyone while He does not. We cannot out-love the very essence of What God is.

 

Hos.9:15

"Every evil of theirs is in Gilgal; there I began to hate them. Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of my house. I will love them no more; all their princes are rebels."


Isa.63:7-10

"I will recount the steadfast love of the LORD, the praises of the LORD, according to all that the LORD has granted us, and the great goodness to the house of Israel which he has granted them according to his mercy, according to the abundance of his steadfast love. For he said, Surely they are my people, sons who will not deal falsely; and he became their Savior. In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them; in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. But they rebelled and grieved his holy Spirit; therefore he turned to be their enemy, and himself fought against them."

 

Reformed theologian Thomas Goodwin, Exposition of Ephesians:

Any ideas what this Reformed theologian means by "all Attributes"?

 

Of course God loves people in hell, too bad they couldn't accept Christ and they could be with him in Heaven.

 

Does God So Love the World? (John MacArthur)

Does God So Love the World?

 

Part 2 of MacArthur:

 

If either heaven or hell is the end result of God 'loving us all,' .. ain't we just lucky? "Love" has no meaning at all if He loves those in hell. Or maybe the inquisitors loved the heretics they were stretching on the rack, 'testing' with red-hot pincers and burning at the stake?

 

Thanks for the article Skandelon. I think that says it all. :thumbsup:

 

Excellent Article Skandelon. Thanks for sharing.

 

if God hates those who now live and sin, (psalm 5:5) but choses to shed His love on them for salvation and many refuse His offer then there is no reason to believe that He continues to love those who have sinned unto judgment and eternal torment. So no God does not love those who are in hell.

 

My answer to the poll question, "Does God love people in hell?" was no.

But the question in the OP was different: "Will love that has the power to save, save indeed?"

I would answer "yes" to that, unless Osage (the original poster) meant, "Will love that has the power to save every human being who has ever lived, is living, or will live, save universally?"

 

Surely whether or not you agree that the "first one sounded like henry mahan" will depend, not on your persuasion, but on how well you know that man's voice.

 

Matthew 18:
32"Then summoning him, his lord said to him, 'You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me.

33'Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?'

34"And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him.

35"My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart."

Matthew 23:
Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees
13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [Some manuscripts include here words similar to Mark 12:40 and Luke 20:47.]

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ 17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ 19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

Matthew 12:7
If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent.

Many people think they are God and their judgment is righteous and how their understanding is the truth, but God said this.

Hebrews 10:30
For we know Him who said, " VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY " And again, " THE LORD WILL JUDGE HIS PEOPLE."

 

Maybe it could refer to people in hell, but only IF:

1. Paul's very next words, in Romans 5.9-11 didn't make it crystal clear that he was not referring to those in hell:

Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life. And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
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People in hell are not "reconciled to God", they are not saved by Christ's life, nor have they received reconcilliation through Him.

And IF:

2. the letter had been addressed to everyone living in Rome, and not, as Romans 1.7-8 says (emphasis mine):

To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
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Webdog, I know that you did not say that Romans 5.8 referred to those in hell, but that "still sinners" describes people in hell. Even so, the implication is (please correct me if I have misunderstood you) that the fact that God loved Christians before they were converted lends support to the idea that God must love people in hell.