I am starting this new thread to continue the OSAS deliberation since the other one is suppose to be focused on the Greek aspect of OSAS. If it is true that one can be born of God and yet go to hell, then God must send His not so perfect children ( i guess that would be all of us) to the lake of fire. It would also be true that God goes with them to the lake of fire since a child of God is given the Holy Spirit as a permanent source of everlasting life. Therefore it wouldn't matter if you have eternal life or not, you still must be sinless or suffer the consequences of hell. In reality then "eternal life" is meaningless and Christianity is nothing more than just another religion one must obey and then just hope they might not get thrown into hell. If there is clearly a difference then why did you say?..." but this is death that results from sin ". Which is it? Death from "wandering away from the truth" or "death from sin"? James 5:19-20, My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, 20let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins . Are you a "sinner" or a "saint" or both at the same time? Please explain the answer you select and how you became one or the other or both. Thank You! God Bless!